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Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report (www.extremetech.com)
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Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report::undefined

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[–] 17 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (20 children)

The port on the phone Pro model supports transfer speeds up to 20 or 40 gbps, it’s just the supplied charging cable that is limited to USB 2.0 speeds. If you use a thunderbolt cable you will get full speed and a full feature set.

Edit: Seems like I was wrong; only the Pro models get full speed. That’s kinda shitty, yeah. Unfortunately still in spec, as the mandate is only for the form factor, not the protocol.

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  • [+] 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)
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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I’m honestly not sure that I agree. Full speed USB 3.2/Thunderbolt cables are expensive, and 99.9 % of users will only ever use the supplied cable for charging. The ones who want to do cable transfers at high speed will probably already have the cable they need.

    Limiting the speed of the *port * of the non-Pro models is worse, but likely also a cost-cutting decision that will have little impact on the vast majority of users.

    It would be interesting to know how many of the competitors’ phones offer high speed data transfer through the USB port (I honestly don’t know, but would like to).

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  • [+] -8 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Boo this man. How would limiting the speed of the port affect cost at all?

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    You're likely not aware of all the facts. See, they're required to put the USB C port in because Apple has been getting away with bullshit for decades that needs to stop. There's zero reason for all the proprietary shit they force users to use that ends up creating millions of tons of plastic waste. So they decided to be extra massive cunts and are putting BOTH options on the phone instead of just using the one that every other phone does just fine with, creating a TON of plastic waste, and then, the kicker, forcing you to buy both cords anyhow if you want things to be fast.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Getting away with it? You know lightning came out like 4 years before USB-C, right?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Apple gets shit because they had a proprietary connector when everyone stated using mini/micro usb.

    They then upgraded their proprietary connector to one that was MUCH better than the mini/micro connectors.

    Now the usb-c connector is king and apple looks bad for not having the “better” connector this time.

    But they aren’t forcing anyone to a NEW proprietary connector, just the one they have been using for like a decade now …

    Standardizing on a GOOD connector will be nice, but it’s not like apples proprietary connector wasn’t BETTER for a long time.

    Most folks don’t follow the timeline, yes apple is using a proprietary connector but it’s older than the new connector that was being used. They didn’t force you into a shittier product back then.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    FYI it was newer by 2 years. I don't think anyone is complaining about the performance of lightning over USB C, its that people want things to be standardized like everything non-apple is. Apple could have contributed to the USB C research and made a better cable that's available to everyone, like IBM with the original USB or Phillips with HDMI.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    iPhones for the lightning port in 2012 and I think the first usb c android was 2015ish

    My point is that 11 years later people act as if this lightning port was thrust upon them RATHER than getting usb c.

    They’ve been using the same connector for more than a decade now, that’s all.

    Your points about apple opting to go their own route is salient and stands and I agree whole heartedly.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago

    This, Apple is shitty for not advancing a standard. Can you imagine if every appliance came with some proprietary cable so you would be incentivized to stay with one brand to minimize hassle. We'd never stand for that, but for some reason we as consumers didn't demand standardization in this realm. It's a fast moving industry to be sure, but I don't really see how that precludes standardization and that is evidenced by all the non Apple equipment that has settled on USB.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    What are you talking about? Lightning is older than USB-c, and iPhone has had 2 connectors (30pin, Lightning) during the time where all other phones had at least three (Mini B, Micro B, C)

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Proving my point to?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    No? A non-iPhone user has had to replace more cables during the same time span, and that’s not even counting the proprietary cables that existed on phones in the 2007-2009 era. Thunderbolt cables are expensive, even at Monoprice they are 3-4x the cost of a USB 2.0 cable that the vast majority will never need anything better.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    and are putting BOTH options on the phone

    While we haven’t yet seen the new phones, this is extremely unlikely. Since when does Apple have the reputation of adding ports?

    I had read somewhere that they’re just continuing to use an older controller to save a few Pennie’s and reduce architectural changes

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