▲ 512 ▼ Larian CEO Responds to Divinity Gen AI Backlash: 'We Are Neither Releasing a Game With Any AI Components, Nor Are We Looking at Trimming Down Teams to Replace Them With AI' (www.ign.com) submitted 8 months ago by iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works to c/games@lemmy.world 121 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Doctorbllk@slrpnk.net -11 points 8 months ago (2 children) The article doesn't say Larian is using it for concept art. Those were hypothetical statements from people outside the studio. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (3 children) Literally the first sentence A few hours ago, reports surfaced that Larian are making use of generative AI during development of their new RPG Divinity - specifically, to come up with ideas, produce placeholder text, develop concept art, and create materials for PowerPoint presentations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) The actual quote from Swen is that they use it in the "ideation" phase of concept art. Basically: throwing shit on the wall and seeing what sticks. After that, the process is taken over by any of their almost 30 concept artists on payroll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kosure@sh.itjust.works -3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Yes, So AI comes up with the basic concepts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) No, it doesn't. Doodles are not concept art. Ideation is not concept art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) It at least informs the concept art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago It's being used in the pre-concept art phase, which is when you grab literally anything to do a very generic “here’s my idea” demonstration. It can be a screenshot from a game you recently played, a cinema poster, a photo of your cat, something you found on DeviantArt or Pinterest, a doodle you made with a pencil, cloth fragment, an interesting rock you found on a stroll, simple render, anything. But, getting all these takes a lot of time - you have something in your head and now you need to find an image or an item that will more or less represent it. So you spend hours on Google Images trying to refine your search, only so that you can then post it on the ideas board, and for it to be replaced completely by actual concept art. This is where they’re utilising GenAI. And they’re not even replacing this process entirely, they’re using GenAI on top of everything else - basically, using all the tools available to speed up the process. And, yes, sure, "it at least informs the concept art", but that's kind of the point of that entire phase of development. Concept art doesn't grow in a void, the designers of the game are not the concept artists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Doctorbllk@slrpnk.net 5 points 8 months ago You're right, I missed that permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org -5 points 8 months ago Not the powerpoint presentations! Isn't anything sacred anymore? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Noja@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) Idk but that seems pretty obvious to me from reading the quote by Larian CEO Swen Vincke that they used to, or are still using it to generate or "enhance" concept art and that's it's a highly discussed topic within the company? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago What he actually said was that they use it in the “ideation” phase of concept art. Basically: throwing shit on the wall and seeing what sticks. After that, the process is taken over by any of their almost 30 concept artists on payroll. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (3 children) Literally the first sentence A few hours ago, reports surfaced that Larian are making use of generative AI during development of their new RPG Divinity - specifically, to come up with ideas, produce placeholder text, develop concept art, and create materials for PowerPoint presentations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) The actual quote from Swen is that they use it in the "ideation" phase of concept art. Basically: throwing shit on the wall and seeing what sticks. After that, the process is taken over by any of their almost 30 concept artists on payroll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kosure@sh.itjust.works -3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Yes, So AI comes up with the basic concepts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) No, it doesn't. Doodles are not concept art. Ideation is not concept art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) It at least informs the concept art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago It's being used in the pre-concept art phase, which is when you grab literally anything to do a very generic “here’s my idea” demonstration. It can be a screenshot from a game you recently played, a cinema poster, a photo of your cat, something you found on DeviantArt or Pinterest, a doodle you made with a pencil, cloth fragment, an interesting rock you found on a stroll, simple render, anything. But, getting all these takes a lot of time - you have something in your head and now you need to find an image or an item that will more or less represent it. So you spend hours on Google Images trying to refine your search, only so that you can then post it on the ideas board, and for it to be replaced completely by actual concept art. This is where they’re utilising GenAI. And they’re not even replacing this process entirely, they’re using GenAI on top of everything else - basically, using all the tools available to speed up the process. And, yes, sure, "it at least informs the concept art", but that's kind of the point of that entire phase of development. Concept art doesn't grow in a void, the designers of the game are not the concept artists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Doctorbllk@slrpnk.net 5 points 8 months ago You're right, I missed that permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org -5 points 8 months ago Not the powerpoint presentations! Isn't anything sacred anymore? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) The actual quote from Swen is that they use it in the "ideation" phase of concept art. Basically: throwing shit on the wall and seeing what sticks. After that, the process is taken over by any of their almost 30 concept artists on payroll. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kosure@sh.itjust.works -3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Yes, So AI comes up with the basic concepts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) No, it doesn't. Doodles are not concept art. Ideation is not concept art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) It at least informs the concept art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago It's being used in the pre-concept art phase, which is when you grab literally anything to do a very generic “here’s my idea” demonstration. It can be a screenshot from a game you recently played, a cinema poster, a photo of your cat, something you found on DeviantArt or Pinterest, a doodle you made with a pencil, cloth fragment, an interesting rock you found on a stroll, simple render, anything. But, getting all these takes a lot of time - you have something in your head and now you need to find an image or an item that will more or less represent it. So you spend hours on Google Images trying to refine your search, only so that you can then post it on the ideas board, and for it to be replaced completely by actual concept art. This is where they’re utilising GenAI. And they’re not even replacing this process entirely, they’re using GenAI on top of everything else - basically, using all the tools available to speed up the process. And, yes, sure, "it at least informs the concept art", but that's kind of the point of that entire phase of development. Concept art doesn't grow in a void, the designers of the game are not the concept artists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kosure@sh.itjust.works -3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Yes, So AI comes up with the basic concepts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) No, it doesn't. Doodles are not concept art. Ideation is not concept art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) It at least informs the concept art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago It's being used in the pre-concept art phase, which is when you grab literally anything to do a very generic “here’s my idea” demonstration. It can be a screenshot from a game you recently played, a cinema poster, a photo of your cat, something you found on DeviantArt or Pinterest, a doodle you made with a pencil, cloth fragment, an interesting rock you found on a stroll, simple render, anything. But, getting all these takes a lot of time - you have something in your head and now you need to find an image or an item that will more or less represent it. So you spend hours on Google Images trying to refine your search, only so that you can then post it on the ideas board, and for it to be replaced completely by actual concept art. This is where they’re utilising GenAI. And they’re not even replacing this process entirely, they’re using GenAI on top of everything else - basically, using all the tools available to speed up the process. And, yes, sure, "it at least informs the concept art", but that's kind of the point of that entire phase of development. Concept art doesn't grow in a void, the designers of the game are not the concept artists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) No, it doesn't. Doodles are not concept art. Ideation is not concept art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) It at least informs the concept art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago It's being used in the pre-concept art phase, which is when you grab literally anything to do a very generic “here’s my idea” demonstration. It can be a screenshot from a game you recently played, a cinema poster, a photo of your cat, something you found on DeviantArt or Pinterest, a doodle you made with a pencil, cloth fragment, an interesting rock you found on a stroll, simple render, anything. But, getting all these takes a lot of time - you have something in your head and now you need to find an image or an item that will more or less represent it. So you spend hours on Google Images trying to refine your search, only so that you can then post it on the ideas board, and for it to be replaced completely by actual concept art. This is where they’re utilising GenAI. And they’re not even replacing this process entirely, they’re using GenAI on top of everything else - basically, using all the tools available to speed up the process. And, yes, sure, "it at least informs the concept art", but that's kind of the point of that entire phase of development. Concept art doesn't grow in a void, the designers of the game are not the concept artists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) It at least informs the concept art. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago It's being used in the pre-concept art phase, which is when you grab literally anything to do a very generic “here’s my idea” demonstration. It can be a screenshot from a game you recently played, a cinema poster, a photo of your cat, something you found on DeviantArt or Pinterest, a doodle you made with a pencil, cloth fragment, an interesting rock you found on a stroll, simple render, anything. But, getting all these takes a lot of time - you have something in your head and now you need to find an image or an item that will more or less represent it. So you spend hours on Google Images trying to refine your search, only so that you can then post it on the ideas board, and for it to be replaced completely by actual concept art. This is where they’re utilising GenAI. And they’re not even replacing this process entirely, they’re using GenAI on top of everything else - basically, using all the tools available to speed up the process. And, yes, sure, "it at least informs the concept art", but that's kind of the point of that entire phase of development. Concept art doesn't grow in a void, the designers of the game are not the concept artists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago It's being used in the pre-concept art phase, which is when you grab literally anything to do a very generic “here’s my idea” demonstration. It can be a screenshot from a game you recently played, a cinema poster, a photo of your cat, something you found on DeviantArt or Pinterest, a doodle you made with a pencil, cloth fragment, an interesting rock you found on a stroll, simple render, anything. But, getting all these takes a lot of time - you have something in your head and now you need to find an image or an item that will more or less represent it. So you spend hours on Google Images trying to refine your search, only so that you can then post it on the ideas board, and for it to be replaced completely by actual concept art. This is where they’re utilising GenAI. And they’re not even replacing this process entirely, they’re using GenAI on top of everything else - basically, using all the tools available to speed up the process. And, yes, sure, "it at least informs the concept art", but that's kind of the point of that entire phase of development. Concept art doesn't grow in a void, the designers of the game are not the concept artists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Doctorbllk@slrpnk.net 5 points 8 months ago You're right, I missed that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org -5 points 8 months ago Not the powerpoint presentations! Isn't anything sacred anymore? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Noja@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) Idk but that seems pretty obvious to me from reading the quote by Larian CEO Swen Vincke that they used to, or are still using it to generate or "enhance" concept art and that's it's a highly discussed topic within the company? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago What he actually said was that they use it in the “ideation” phase of concept art. Basically: throwing shit on the wall and seeing what sticks. After that, the process is taken over by any of their almost 30 concept artists on payroll. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago What he actually said was that they use it in the “ideation” phase of concept art. Basically: throwing shit on the wall and seeing what sticks. After that, the process is taken over by any of their almost 30 concept artists on payroll. permalink fedilink source parent