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lemmy.ml/c/piracy and lemmy.world/c/piracy do not show the same content. This a problem. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A user checking out one of these URLs does not want to filter only local post on that instance.

On all instances, this url should mean "show me all /c/piracy on all federated instances"

If you really mean /c/piracy only on that instance, then add something to the url.

The current convention breaks the most important aspect of federation and makes its vestigial appendage.

The current way has user asking question /c/piracy, but on which instance ?

So now they'll all join the same instance . You wouldn't post anywhere else since no one would every see it.

It's a recipe for centralization.

I think this is obvious to most users, were deal with "voat with extra steps" here

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Here's what this sounds like to me:

[email protected] and [email protected] do not reach the same person. This is a problem. When a user sends email to george, they expect to reach the one true George, not some kind of fake George.

It is not helpful to declare that a system is defective just because it doesn't work in way that a new user initially guessed that it does. Their first guess was incorrect! That's okay! It's okay for new users to make mistakes and learn!

There's no getting around that new users have to learn how to use the service. That takes time and experimentation. It also takes patience, both on the part of the new user and on the part of more experienced users.

Sure, there can be additional signposts and help. But it's really unhelpful to just declare that the system is wrong and the new user's first guess must be right.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have heard this meme before, lemmy is not email

Also application that go against user intuition, start with a permanent handicap.

But in this case, this is fatal, you cannot learn your way into making lemmy.example.com/c/piracy should you all /c/piracy on all instance

The functionallity simply is missing and the consequence is everything will be on the lemmy.biginstance.com/c/thebigcommunity and everything else will be invisible (and probably defederated outright as moderation becomes increasingly untenable)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know about it. Look even at the usernames. It's @[email protected], it's structured like an email. Even for instances, /c/piracy is not a thing, it is [email protected] in Lemmy world. Even Mastadon has the same structure of name@instance.

Every community has their own sets of rules, own set of moderators and culture. If you don't like how one is moderated, go to another one (basically how reddit works too, except there you need to change to name to make an alternate community)

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is like saying Bob in New York and Bob in Austin as different

Therefore for this reason /c/knitting in Seattle and /c/knitting in De Leon Springs are different things that must be considered individually in their own terms.

Nobody wants to distinguish and reads individually about the 108000 knitting communities in the USA. There is only /c/knitting, the rest is hair splitting and exposed infrastructure

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No no, you had it right in your second paragraph. Every instance has its own set of communities. Sometimes they happen to have the same names.

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