▲ 694 ▼ Valve confirms Steam Machine will be priced ‘like a PC with the same level of performance’ (www.videogameschronicle.com) submitted 9 months ago by simple@piefed.social to c/games@lemmy.world 398 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 6 points 9 months ago (1 child) No, but the price points of the current consoles are hilariously optimistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Idk, $699 USD for the PS5 pro seems a bit closer to "PC pricing" than I would expect from Sony if they're subsidizing the cost with future game sales. I'd kind of expect them to be making consoles at break-even/no-profit, more than at a loss right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) They can set the asking price to whatever they like but a lot of us cannot justify those amounts for what amounts to a toy. By this stage in a console generation I would expect a lot more games and a lot cheaper hardware. The reasons that haven't happened aren't of interest to me as a consumer (they're of interest to me as a nerd!). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) The reason is simple. Inflation. The NES originally sold for $180 USD in 1985, which is worth $530 today. The SNES, circa 1991, was $199 USD or $459 today. Fast forward a bunch... The switch 2 is currently priced at $449 USD. The literal price has gone up, but the cost is going down. Slightly, but still. I'm sure I could repeat the same experiment for PlayStation, Xbox, or Sega's consoles and see similar results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I think it's a little more complex than that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Why do you think that? Because corporate greed > all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago Because hardware, software, culture, incomes, demand, supply, and many, many other factors have all changed since the 1980s. It's not a straight comparison. Inflation is a factor but it is not the only factor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Idk, $699 USD for the PS5 pro seems a bit closer to "PC pricing" than I would expect from Sony if they're subsidizing the cost with future game sales. I'd kind of expect them to be making consoles at break-even/no-profit, more than at a loss right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) They can set the asking price to whatever they like but a lot of us cannot justify those amounts for what amounts to a toy. By this stage in a console generation I would expect a lot more games and a lot cheaper hardware. The reasons that haven't happened aren't of interest to me as a consumer (they're of interest to me as a nerd!). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) The reason is simple. Inflation. The NES originally sold for $180 USD in 1985, which is worth $530 today. The SNES, circa 1991, was $199 USD or $459 today. Fast forward a bunch... The switch 2 is currently priced at $449 USD. The literal price has gone up, but the cost is going down. Slightly, but still. I'm sure I could repeat the same experiment for PlayStation, Xbox, or Sega's consoles and see similar results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I think it's a little more complex than that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Why do you think that? Because corporate greed > all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago Because hardware, software, culture, incomes, demand, supply, and many, many other factors have all changed since the 1980s. It's not a straight comparison. Inflation is a factor but it is not the only factor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) They can set the asking price to whatever they like but a lot of us cannot justify those amounts for what amounts to a toy. By this stage in a console generation I would expect a lot more games and a lot cheaper hardware. The reasons that haven't happened aren't of interest to me as a consumer (they're of interest to me as a nerd!). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) The reason is simple. Inflation. The NES originally sold for $180 USD in 1985, which is worth $530 today. The SNES, circa 1991, was $199 USD or $459 today. Fast forward a bunch... The switch 2 is currently priced at $449 USD. The literal price has gone up, but the cost is going down. Slightly, but still. I'm sure I could repeat the same experiment for PlayStation, Xbox, or Sega's consoles and see similar results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I think it's a little more complex than that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Why do you think that? Because corporate greed > all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago Because hardware, software, culture, incomes, demand, supply, and many, many other factors have all changed since the 1980s. It's not a straight comparison. Inflation is a factor but it is not the only factor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) The reason is simple. Inflation. The NES originally sold for $180 USD in 1985, which is worth $530 today. The SNES, circa 1991, was $199 USD or $459 today. Fast forward a bunch... The switch 2 is currently priced at $449 USD. The literal price has gone up, but the cost is going down. Slightly, but still. I'm sure I could repeat the same experiment for PlayStation, Xbox, or Sega's consoles and see similar results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I think it's a little more complex than that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Why do you think that? Because corporate greed > all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago Because hardware, software, culture, incomes, demand, supply, and many, many other factors have all changed since the 1980s. It's not a straight comparison. Inflation is a factor but it is not the only factor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I think it's a little more complex than that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Why do you think that? Because corporate greed > all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago Because hardware, software, culture, incomes, demand, supply, and many, many other factors have all changed since the 1980s. It's not a straight comparison. Inflation is a factor but it is not the only factor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Why do you think that? Because corporate greed > all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago Because hardware, software, culture, incomes, demand, supply, and many, many other factors have all changed since the 1980s. It's not a straight comparison. Inflation is a factor but it is not the only factor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago Because hardware, software, culture, incomes, demand, supply, and many, many other factors have all changed since the 1980s. It's not a straight comparison. Inflation is a factor but it is not the only factor. permalink fedilink source parent