▲ 694 ▼ Valve confirms Steam Machine will be priced ‘like a PC with the same level of performance’ (www.videogameschronicle.com) submitted 9 months ago by simple@piefed.social to c/games@lemmy.world 398 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 16 points 9 months ago (10 children) Why would anyone want it then? Just install Steam on your machine and use it... permalink fedilink source hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago (1 child) As it says in the article, it'll be smaller and quieter, so less offensive for most people's living rooms than a full-size desktop. It's not meant to replace your existing PC if you have one, unless it was getting old and you were about to replace it anyway. If you don't have a PC, or don't have one in the living room, then it might be a better option than anyone else's prebuilt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 32 points 9 months ago (1 child) And, as with any standardized hardware, it's a lot easier to ensure games and services (like Proton) perform reliably. Time will tell if this sells enough, but it could become the new standard for industry benchmarking/testing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* it could become the new standard for industry benchmarking/testing Exactly. We are already seeing game companies specifically mention the Steam Deck in patch notes. This will give them a standard item to validate compatibility against. Any game company that wants to make sure their game works well will have a Steam Machine on-hand to QA with. And I fully agree with you on benchmarking. It will be a very standardized system to point to in game reviews. permalink fedilink source parent [–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 19 points 9 months ago (1 child) The biggest advantages it has over other PCs is CEC and Wake on USB(controller) enabled out of the box. Those are the two features I miss the most on my HTPC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@piefed.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 child) Other major advantages are the form factor and standardized design making it smaller and most likely more reliable than a comparable PC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) Standardized design, sure. I would argue you could get something more powerful at a comparable size for not too much more. My HTPC is about the size of a shoe box yet has a R7 7700X and a RX 6900 XT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 9 months ago Ok permalink fedilink source parent [–] Glide@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) There are people who exist between "I build, format and otherwise manage my own gaming rig," and "I don't need a PC for games." My partner is a perfect example. She has my old PC shell, with some $500 of GPU, internal memory, and accessories, hooked up to the TV. She uses it daily, almost exclusively for Steam games and streaming services that she finds more comfortable to navigate with a keyboard and mouse. A smaller, quieter, streamlined, "this more or less will do the things you want to do straight out of the box" product would have saved both her (and I, because that thing has had some troubleshooting) a lot of headache, while looking far more presentable to boot. Maybe she's the odd one out and the target audience is more niche than my bias' recognize, but I guess we'll see for sure when this thing releases. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bisby@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago "on your machine" requires you to have a machine. This isn't for people with computers already. This is for people who are already looking for a new machine, and this becomes the "ready out of the box" option. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tal@lemmy.today 11 points 9 months ago I mean, it's fine to do so, as long as you have PC hardware that meets your needs. Valve would be fine with it too. As long as it can run Steam, all good. For Valve, I expect that the Steam Machine is to provide an easy-to-set-up option a la consoles that let them move into the living room for people who have an issue with that. If you can already use/configure a PC and have one, then that option is gonna work too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 child) People without gaming rigs that don’t wanna spend almost as much for a console permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol -6 points 9 months ago (2 children) I don't understand. Why pay the same for the same power just to get a less maintainable machine that is barely usable outside gaming? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 child) How is it barely usable outside gaming? Its a fully functional Linux desktop computer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) I used Linux for regular desktop stuff before I installed Steam on it. Steam got me back into gaming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago Almost same, I use Linux on my laptop for regular stuff and just have a console. Now suddenly valve has made steam and almost all gaming Linux native! I definitely want one lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago Why is it barely usable outside of gaming? permalink fedilink source parent [–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 7 points 9 months ago* That's a lot for someone who doesn't understand computers beyond Windows and MacOS. People also don't realise that since the PS4 and the Xbox One every console is just a X86-64 machine. So, I think it's a good move from Valve. Also it will be easier to manage and optimise for Valve if all their hardware is the same, a bit like Apple. permalink fedilink source parent [–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago If its a decent price I'll want it. I love the freedom PC gaming allows but sometimes I do miss the convenience of a console. It would be great for my kid as well. No fidling with the display, having the PC not wake properly from sleep, controllers not connecting, etc. It would just work. Our current setup inevitably something doesnt work right first try. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kbal@fedia.io 3 points 9 months ago People do occasionally buy new computers, and this one looks likely to be a better choice than most of what's on the market. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago At least for me, a Steam Machine would be the ideal use case for my brother, since the literal ONLY game he plays is CS2. He used to play Fortnite, but he hasn't done that in years... and even then if he wanted we could just swap places between my current real computer and the Steam Machine. It's also really small so it wouldn't occupy much space on the other room of the house. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago (1 child) As it says in the article, it'll be smaller and quieter, so less offensive for most people's living rooms than a full-size desktop. It's not meant to replace your existing PC if you have one, unless it was getting old and you were about to replace it anyway. If you don't have a PC, or don't have one in the living room, then it might be a better option than anyone else's prebuilt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 32 points 9 months ago (1 child) And, as with any standardized hardware, it's a lot easier to ensure games and services (like Proton) perform reliably. Time will tell if this sells enough, but it could become the new standard for industry benchmarking/testing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* it could become the new standard for industry benchmarking/testing Exactly. We are already seeing game companies specifically mention the Steam Deck in patch notes. This will give them a standard item to validate compatibility against. Any game company that wants to make sure their game works well will have a Steam Machine on-hand to QA with. And I fully agree with you on benchmarking. It will be a very standardized system to point to in game reviews. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 32 points 9 months ago (1 child) And, as with any standardized hardware, it's a lot easier to ensure games and services (like Proton) perform reliably. Time will tell if this sells enough, but it could become the new standard for industry benchmarking/testing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* it could become the new standard for industry benchmarking/testing Exactly. We are already seeing game companies specifically mention the Steam Deck in patch notes. This will give them a standard item to validate compatibility against. Any game company that wants to make sure their game works well will have a Steam Machine on-hand to QA with. And I fully agree with you on benchmarking. It will be a very standardized system to point to in game reviews. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* it could become the new standard for industry benchmarking/testing Exactly. We are already seeing game companies specifically mention the Steam Deck in patch notes. This will give them a standard item to validate compatibility against. Any game company that wants to make sure their game works well will have a Steam Machine on-hand to QA with. And I fully agree with you on benchmarking. It will be a very standardized system to point to in game reviews. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 19 points 9 months ago (1 child) The biggest advantages it has over other PCs is CEC and Wake on USB(controller) enabled out of the box. Those are the two features I miss the most on my HTPC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@piefed.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 child) Other major advantages are the form factor and standardized design making it smaller and most likely more reliable than a comparable PC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) Standardized design, sure. I would argue you could get something more powerful at a comparable size for not too much more. My HTPC is about the size of a shoe box yet has a R7 7700X and a RX 6900 XT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 9 months ago Ok permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@piefed.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 child) Other major advantages are the form factor and standardized design making it smaller and most likely more reliable than a comparable PC. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) Standardized design, sure. I would argue you could get something more powerful at a comparable size for not too much more. My HTPC is about the size of a shoe box yet has a R7 7700X and a RX 6900 XT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 9 months ago Ok permalink fedilink source parent
[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) Standardized design, sure. I would argue you could get something more powerful at a comparable size for not too much more. My HTPC is about the size of a shoe box yet has a R7 7700X and a RX 6900 XT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 9 months ago Ok permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) There are people who exist between "I build, format and otherwise manage my own gaming rig," and "I don't need a PC for games." My partner is a perfect example. She has my old PC shell, with some $500 of GPU, internal memory, and accessories, hooked up to the TV. She uses it daily, almost exclusively for Steam games and streaming services that she finds more comfortable to navigate with a keyboard and mouse. A smaller, quieter, streamlined, "this more or less will do the things you want to do straight out of the box" product would have saved both her (and I, because that thing has had some troubleshooting) a lot of headache, while looking far more presentable to boot. Maybe she's the odd one out and the target audience is more niche than my bias' recognize, but I guess we'll see for sure when this thing releases. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bisby@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago "on your machine" requires you to have a machine. This isn't for people with computers already. This is for people who are already looking for a new machine, and this becomes the "ready out of the box" option. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tal@lemmy.today 11 points 9 months ago I mean, it's fine to do so, as long as you have PC hardware that meets your needs. Valve would be fine with it too. As long as it can run Steam, all good. For Valve, I expect that the Steam Machine is to provide an easy-to-set-up option a la consoles that let them move into the living room for people who have an issue with that. If you can already use/configure a PC and have one, then that option is gonna work too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 child) People without gaming rigs that don’t wanna spend almost as much for a console permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol -6 points 9 months ago (2 children) I don't understand. Why pay the same for the same power just to get a less maintainable machine that is barely usable outside gaming? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 child) How is it barely usable outside gaming? Its a fully functional Linux desktop computer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) I used Linux for regular desktop stuff before I installed Steam on it. Steam got me back into gaming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago Almost same, I use Linux on my laptop for regular stuff and just have a console. Now suddenly valve has made steam and almost all gaming Linux native! I definitely want one lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago Why is it barely usable outside of gaming? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol -6 points 9 months ago (2 children) I don't understand. Why pay the same for the same power just to get a less maintainable machine that is barely usable outside gaming? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 child) How is it barely usable outside gaming? Its a fully functional Linux desktop computer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) I used Linux for regular desktop stuff before I installed Steam on it. Steam got me back into gaming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago Almost same, I use Linux on my laptop for regular stuff and just have a console. Now suddenly valve has made steam and almost all gaming Linux native! I definitely want one lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago Why is it barely usable outside of gaming? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 child) How is it barely usable outside gaming? Its a fully functional Linux desktop computer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) I used Linux for regular desktop stuff before I installed Steam on it. Steam got me back into gaming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago Almost same, I use Linux on my laptop for regular stuff and just have a console. Now suddenly valve has made steam and almost all gaming Linux native! I definitely want one lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) I used Linux for regular desktop stuff before I installed Steam on it. Steam got me back into gaming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago Almost same, I use Linux on my laptop for regular stuff and just have a console. Now suddenly valve has made steam and almost all gaming Linux native! I definitely want one lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago Almost same, I use Linux on my laptop for regular stuff and just have a console. Now suddenly valve has made steam and almost all gaming Linux native! I definitely want one lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago Why is it barely usable outside of gaming? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 7 points 9 months ago* That's a lot for someone who doesn't understand computers beyond Windows and MacOS. People also don't realise that since the PS4 and the Xbox One every console is just a X86-64 machine. So, I think it's a good move from Valve. Also it will be easier to manage and optimise for Valve if all their hardware is the same, a bit like Apple. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago If its a decent price I'll want it. I love the freedom PC gaming allows but sometimes I do miss the convenience of a console. It would be great for my kid as well. No fidling with the display, having the PC not wake properly from sleep, controllers not connecting, etc. It would just work. Our current setup inevitably something doesnt work right first try. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kbal@fedia.io 3 points 9 months ago People do occasionally buy new computers, and this one looks likely to be a better choice than most of what's on the market. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago At least for me, a Steam Machine would be the ideal use case for my brother, since the literal ONLY game he plays is CS2. He used to play Fortnite, but he hasn't done that in years... and even then if he wanted we could just swap places between my current real computer and the Steam Machine. It's also really small so it wouldn't occupy much space on the other room of the house. permalink fedilink source parent