▲ 444 ▼ Google CEO: If an AI bubble pops, no one is getting out clean (arstechnica.com) submitted 10 months ago by Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 100 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 119 points 10 months ago (8 children) If an AI bubble pops, no one is getting out clean. He means the taxpayers. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] e461h@sh.itjust.works 74 points 10 months ago (1 child) Privatize the profits, socialize the losses permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 23 points 10 months ago “We should privatise service X so it’s more efficient” X collapses “We can’t afford to let X fail despite the fact that it ran at massive profits all the way to it’s collapse so we’ll bail it out” THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF PRIVATISING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE?! You can take on the burden of running the thing and therefore the cost of making it public, or you can allow it to be private with the caveat that they must pay a substantial (enough for the government to not be at a net loss) tax as a kind of insurance in the event a bailout is needed, but don’t take on the worst of both worlds where the profits are private and the losses are public. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 19 points 10 months ago (5 children) Let the taxpayers prop up failing companies. Corpo welfare is the good kind of welfare even though most of the money gets sucked up by the Executives and share buy backs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children) At least China is right about not bailing out their companies when their own property bubble collapsed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children) The bar can't be "not as corrupt as America". That's not a bar, that's the ground. They can and should do better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Oh I'm not trying to defend or exalt China. I'm saying that we should be like China when it comes to dealing with billionaires. Or even better, be like Vietnam, when the court ordered a billionaire who defrauded thousands to pay in time or be executed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago The amount of bailing out should be inversely proportionate to the amount of people fired during record profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] e461h@sh.itjust.works 74 points 10 months ago (1 child) Privatize the profits, socialize the losses permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 23 points 10 months ago “We should privatise service X so it’s more efficient” X collapses “We can’t afford to let X fail despite the fact that it ran at massive profits all the way to it’s collapse so we’ll bail it out” THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF PRIVATISING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE?! You can take on the burden of running the thing and therefore the cost of making it public, or you can allow it to be private with the caveat that they must pay a substantial (enough for the government to not be at a net loss) tax as a kind of insurance in the event a bailout is needed, but don’t take on the worst of both worlds where the profits are private and the losses are public. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 23 points 10 months ago “We should privatise service X so it’s more efficient” X collapses “We can’t afford to let X fail despite the fact that it ran at massive profits all the way to it’s collapse so we’ll bail it out” THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF PRIVATISING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE?! You can take on the burden of running the thing and therefore the cost of making it public, or you can allow it to be private with the caveat that they must pay a substantial (enough for the government to not be at a net loss) tax as a kind of insurance in the event a bailout is needed, but don’t take on the worst of both worlds where the profits are private and the losses are public. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 19 points 10 months ago (5 children) Let the taxpayers prop up failing companies. Corpo welfare is the good kind of welfare even though most of the money gets sucked up by the Executives and share buy backs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children) At least China is right about not bailing out their companies when their own property bubble collapsed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children) The bar can't be "not as corrupt as America". That's not a bar, that's the ground. They can and should do better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Oh I'm not trying to defend or exalt China. I'm saying that we should be like China when it comes to dealing with billionaires. Or even better, be like Vietnam, when the court ordered a billionaire who defrauded thousands to pay in time or be executed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago The amount of bailing out should be inversely proportionate to the amount of people fired during record profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children) At least China is right about not bailing out their companies when their own property bubble collapsed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children) The bar can't be "not as corrupt as America". That's not a bar, that's the ground. They can and should do better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Oh I'm not trying to defend or exalt China. I'm saying that we should be like China when it comes to dealing with billionaires. Or even better, be like Vietnam, when the court ordered a billionaire who defrauded thousands to pay in time or be executed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children) The bar can't be "not as corrupt as America". That's not a bar, that's the ground. They can and should do better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Oh I'm not trying to defend or exalt China. I'm saying that we should be like China when it comes to dealing with billionaires. Or even better, be like Vietnam, when the court ordered a billionaire who defrauded thousands to pay in time or be executed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Oh I'm not trying to defend or exalt China. I'm saying that we should be like China when it comes to dealing with billionaires. Or even better, be like Vietnam, when the court ordered a billionaire who defrauded thousands to pay in time or be executed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago The amount of bailing out should be inversely proportionate to the amount of people fired during record profits. permalink fedilink source parent