598
Cities Panic Over Having to Release Mass Surveillance Recordings
(www.nakedcapitalism.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 15 Nov 2025
598 points (99.7% liked)
Privacy
48155 readers
677 users here now
A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.
Some Rules
- Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
- Don't promote proprietary software
- Try to keep things on topic
- If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
- Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
- Be nice :)
Related communities
much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS
I have an internal conflict with this and I don't know where my line is. 100% police should have to get a warrant to use this shit. Fuck any company who want to use this for Ai and tracking shit so they can sell me more shit or the private company handing over the info over to law enforcement in a weird way to get around warrant requirments, or any other fucking weird shit.
But I also think you have no expectations of privacy in public. If you go outside and touch grass or whatever you can't demand or stop others from doing their own thing and if that happens to be filming in a public space, well tough shit guess you go somewhere else. I kinda like the idea of cameras everywhere accessible to the public for the public good, I like pulling up traffic cameras and others local places cameras to see if cool things are going on.
So I'm conflicted, cameras everywhere can be cool and make things better for society as a whole but can very easily be used for evil things, maybe it's better to just say fuck any good and it's not worth the risk.
Also I have cameras at my house but I have them on a dedicated server( no ring bullshit). I was broken into and the experience convinced me to get them. Knowing when someone is on my property before they even get close to the house to ring the doorbell or other things is nice.
yes I do. we are not going outside the house to become some kind of an actor. we also cannot just "go away", avoid some places because either that's where we live, where we work, or where we need to pass to travel between these places. but I guess it is easy to tell the "problematic" people to just go way.
"you should have no expectations of privacy in public because I want to watch if something cool happens on a traffic camera"
maybe go play sims if you want to behave like some god, watching peoples lives who did not consent to it, but you could also just watch some fucked up reality show on TV
maybe it was a bit harsh, sorry for that, but I don't know how to get the point across with better words.
Sorry for long post I get not if you don't read it. Have a blessed day anyways.
Philosophy would tell us we are all actors and are wearing masks to hide who we really are. This is a joke to lighten the mood, wouldn't want to fall victim to Poe's law.
First I am from the United States. If your from some where else I don't know their laws sorry. Also I'm not a lawyer. I am just a hobbyist that likes public information. Shout out to DEFCON. Hell yeah.
Yes, the first amendment of the constitution gives Anyone/everyone the right to record in PUBLIC. If this is not the case than please site law? This has been proven many times in Court. It is also what gives police the plain view doctrine. You are afforded the same right to film bad cops doing fucked up stuff and things ( fuck yeah Otto( https://youtube.com/@ottothewatchdog ).If a cop can see it in public they can act upon it with no need for a warrant. It is up to you to hide your drugs or identity or what ever from plain view in public. It is not my duty to turn my back. Freedom is scary deal with it. Shout out to the civil rights lawyer. https://youtube.com/@thecivilrightslawyer
You chastises me for telling you are free to go somewhere else yet in the next sentence wish to restrict my rights and my hobby in a public space because you don't wish to be recorded. If I was in a public park recording the trees or birds or the sick looking car in the parking lot, I should have the right to do so and not be hindered by you because you don't want me to. Because you walked into a public park. I don't wish to restricte you in any way. You are welcome to stand by me as I record the birds. But if you don't like it you are free to walk away and go to another park. You wish to stop me altogether because now I'm the "problematic person". How would you deal with this guy in your park? Shout out to Jeff Gray! https://youtu.be/UOTNJQdNRMo
I would much rather have the right (and balls) to do what this guy does to keep our government in check. Than to be denied the right to film in public because you or anyones feeling about privacy. Shout out to LIA. https://youtu.be/Wb_9J4Rs18E
You are also not as private as you think you are. Well maybe you are. I don't know what steps you put into place to keep yourself private, but your problem to hide it not mine to turn my back. I can go to the city and pull information about any property/land , taxes, leans, fines, restrictions, history of ownership... If you own a car I can write down the license plate number and go pull records about the car. If your a public employee I can FOIA you salary and discipline record. If you stepped into a government building that had cameras I can FOIA the recording. If you have a business i can pull the license information. Your phone number might be listed on a white pages website. You can take steps to hide this info but you have to do it not me. You may not be as private as you think you are. Freedom is scary deal with it.
We all use public available information everyday ( like it or not )and its not all bad. Some of it can be of great use and make life better for everyone.
Have you used google street view. Its amazing, I'm poor at directions and being able to see where I'm going before I get there is great. I hate that Google hold this information but ecstatic that they make it public. Did Google ask for your permission before it drove by where you live? ( I think only Germany requires permission before google does this.)
Most States ( haven't been to every states site) have a Department of transit website. That has cameras you can pull up to look at traffic and road conditions. Google uses this public information to help you and everyone else for their morning commute or whatever, same with your local news. I use it to look at road conditions so I don't have to rely on Google or my local news. Public information is amazing.
Did you know NOAA ( https://www.noaa.gov/ )and NWS (https://www.weather.gov/ ) make their information public and if you have looked at the weather forcast they have probably got some if not all their info from them. Also you yourself can download their images directly from the satellites they have.
https://youtu.be/cjClTnZ4Xh4 Public info is so fucking cool. No matter what anyone says.
Did you know you can view and monitor the most of the world's shipping traffic? https://globalfishingwatch.org/map Public information is how we get cool stories like this. https://youtu.be/2tuS1LLOcsI
The same goes for air traffic. This is how we know billionaire's use their jet to get morning coffee in Paris and polluted thousands of more CO2 than you in your morning commute. https://www.flightradar24.com/
I very much disliked reality TV. It is almost as scripted as any other written show out there. You know what I love though. Body cam footage from police officers. Also courtroom footage. These are things I do not wish to go away because someone demands to keep their privacy when they step into a public space. It is also how we can keep our government in check. Check out.
https://youtube.com/@californiabodycam
https://youtube.com/@bozebutshorter
https://youtube.com/@jcs
https://youtube.com/@ewubodycam
https://youtube.com/@audittheaudit
And many many more. All of which may be restricted if filming in public was restricted.
If you think I have a god complex because I like to listen to police scanners or watch traffic cameras or any other public available information. Well I guess I'm okay with that because you are also welcome to they same information. Let's all (everyone) go be gods together and use the information for the betterment of society.
Public information can be amazing and make the world a better place for everyone. If these cameras go up I want them to be accessible to everyone. Like the article said the judge ruled. I would be happy with not having them at all. As I stated I am conflicted about the whole thing. I am not for law enforcement having unrestricted access to them. I'm also not for companies selling the data for whatever personnel gain they can get. If they exist I want them open for unrestricted public use like say GPS. Now if that isn't some commy leftist shit I don't know what is. (Joke about my instance I'm from). But I'll be alright without them as well. As I said I'm conflicted and don't know where the line should be. I don't think anyone really does.
Sorry for long post. I'm sure no one will read. Can I get more downvotes? Or a good discussion?
This is how I get privacy in public places:
I think this is a better solution. ^.^