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Happy American import day (thelemmy.club)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/ausmemes@aussie.zone
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[+] [S] -6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

It's probably a little overly simplistic to think of it as being "established" like that. Instead, multiple different elements of the holiday, which might originate in different places at different times and radiate out in different ways.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Then by your own logic, why are you blaming this entirely on the US?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not. I'm blaming capitalism and cultural imperialism, for the forced import of a piece of American culture.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Who's 'forcing' it? It's spreading because people have fun with it.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Shops and media which profit from increased sales and viewership. Same as the recent "black Friday sales" nonsense despite the fact that we don't have Thanksgiving.

    Incidentally, I wouldn't mind Thanksgiving. It'd need adapting to the Australian context, but it feels a hell of a lot less commercial than Hallowe'en…which is probably why there hasn't been any attempt to bring it here.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Dude Thanksgiving is like the most imperialist holiday, it’s pretty much American propaganda about how the native Americans were totally cool with colonialism and in the modern context is about buying lots of excessive food. Christmas is the capitalist day but Thanksgiving is not much better

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    American or Canadian propaganda that was slapped on 1/12 or 1/13 of the entire Native American harvest festivals. I don't remember if there were 12 or 13, but their version of Thanksgiving happened that many times per year.

    We just took one of those days and slapped a coat of Union Jack paint all over it. That's also why Canada celebrates their Thanksgiving earlier than we do.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    Thanksgiving is not celebrated correctly anywhere it is celebrated. It originally was a set of 12 or 13 harvest festivals, celebrated by the six nations, that the English settlers appropriated a single one each. That is literally a celebration of imperialism. Watch Addams Family Values if you want to see an appropriate representation of what thanksgiving should look like.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    The shops aren't the ones going around saying 'trick or treat!'. The kids / families are doing it because they enjoy it. And you're determined to be a killjoy for some weird reason.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I mean i get that they dislike the whole crass commercialisation, the shops gleefully diving in and whoring for MONEEYYYY but to bitch and whine about "americaaa" when the first recorded Australian celebration was in like 1856 by a bunch of scottish immigrants is just asinine.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago

    Incidentally, I wouldn't mind Thanksgiving. It'd need adapting to the Australian context

    You mean Australia Day. You're describing Australia Day.

    Also thanksgiving is like THE most american fucking thing outside of superbowl and genocidal to boot...but you wanna bring that in while having big problems with an organic creep of hallowe'en. Which has been celebrated in Australia for two hundred freaking years.

    Fuck's sake

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