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Why don't Americans impeach Trump? (lemmy.org)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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I'm from Korea, and we impeached our president last year, mostly because he declared martial law, but he was also a terrible president, and no one really liked him being there, even his own party.

Why can't the U.S do the same, if Donald Trump is so bad? Why are some Americans even supporting him?

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[โ€“] 82 points 10 months ago* (22 children)

Because America is a completely corrupt society hiding behind the facade of a first world country. It's an example of how capitalism rewards the shittiest people who have no empathy for others unless they can benefit from them.

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  • [โ€“] 23 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    Pretty much this.

    The short answer to OPs question is: he still has support from republicans, oligarchs, and voters.

    The reasons are complex but I think there are several.

    Firstly no compulsory voting. Honestly the US could barely be called a "democracy" before the current shit show.

    Also the "both sides" narrative perpetuated even by those on the left, to their own detriment. The left literally protesting against their own side.

    America's history of violence, racism.

    Late stage capitalism - people are desperate and will follow along with populist policies even if they are lies.

    Checks and balances keeping everything just a tiny sliver to the sane side of abject chaos. Like the tariffs in April - Trump rode right up to the edge but chickened out. If he hadn't he would've lost control after the global financial economy collapsed.

    Religion. Not sure what the situation is in Korea but it can't be as bad as the US. Christianity in the US is just a salve to allow assholes to justify their shit behavior.

    I could go on.

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  • [โ€“] 18 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Like what @TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone said, what do you mean the left is protesting against "their own side?" The DNC isn't left, it's a right-wing party.

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Ah yes, bothsidesing. As I said ...

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    You still didn't answer. It's one side, the DNC and GOP are right-wing parties.

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    You realise this is exactly the message GOP propaganda bots push right ?

    Imagine saying exactly what Trump's strategists want you to say yet still somehow believing you're progressive.

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  • [โ€“] 16 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    The left literally protesting against their own side.

    Sorry, who on the left did the left protest against?

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    The dems may not be left enough for you but they are your progressive party. Protesting against them for their position on Gaza is the biggest self-own in the history of democracy.

    Sorry I'm not going to engage with this dumbassery. I'm not even American.

    You guys shat your own bed and the stench is wafting around the globe.

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Your other arguments may have their own merits, but the dems are factually not part of the left. As a leftist, I don't support right wing candidates. Whether you think I should have voted for them anyway is a separate argument

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    As I said I'm not engaging with this ridiculous position.

    You were captured by GOP propaganda a year ago, and still haven't managed to unravel your delusion even though they don't need you anymore.

    I have to begrudgingly admit they did a great job, developing assets like you who are still parroting their talking points a year later for free.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 10 months ago*

    You are engaging in wrecker behavior. The DNC and GOP are both right-wing parties, and you're here scolding people for refusing to fall for the same electoralist pressure valve.

    Join an org.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 10 months ago*

    You were captured by GOP propaganda a year ago

    Socialist criticism of liberalist parties isn't a recent thing.

    Here's a short newspaper article by Lenin in 1913 writing about the left-wing Labour Party in Australia, a few years after it became the world's first social democratic government at a national level (well, it was socdem at the time, it's since drifted rightward): https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/jun/13.htm

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  • [+] -15 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    South Korea is a capitalist economy....this has nothing to do with capitalism...

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  • [โ€“] 12 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    The ROK also rewards the megawealthy above all else, they even have a special word for them: chaebol. Capitalism everywhere is crumbling and dying.

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    You mean the country that's ruled by megacorporations, has a latent caste system, and was recently the theatre of an attempted coup? Yeah seems like they're doing great.

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    They impeached their president...seems democracy is working pretty well there.

    Let's see who runs NK?

    Who runs russia?

    Who runs china?

    O right, lifetime appointments with rigged elections...got it.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    And why are China or Russia relevant here?

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago

    Because you're in a tankie sub with tankies spouting off random shit about capitalism being the root of all evil....while you posted more shit about capitalism being the true cause and not the fact that shit humans exist no matter what system is in place.

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