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[–] 165 points 11 months ago (87 children)

Really, really hoping Mamdani doesn't turn out to be Obama 2.0.

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  • [–] 141 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (35 children)

    That would require Zohran to be ideologically liberal. I think it's pretty clear from a number of litmus tests that he's a socialist. It's much more difficult to go from being a socialist to a centist. Ideologically, being a socialist isn't merely a step to the left of liberal. It's a fundamentally different worldview which resembles American liberals in a few areas but only in appearance. E.g. both a liberal and a socialist might advocate for universal healthcare. The liberal feels that private healtchare is a defect of an otherwise functioning system. The socialist sees the system working as intended in that it enriches the oligarch class via private healtchare. Therefore the socialist sees public universal healthcare as removing a revenue stream from the oligarch class, diminishing its power in the process and reducing the scope of the capitalist system. The improvement to people's lives naturally follows as a consequence of that. From this perspective, it would be very difficult for a socialist to be convinced they should abandon universal healthcare because insurers would lose too much money like Obama did.

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  • [–] 44 points 11 months ago (25 children)

    He says he's a socialist.

    Democrats say a lot of things that sound really, really good too... until they're elected, and then we realize they're shit-stains.

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  • [–] 56 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    You're not wrong and that could totally be the case but again, he's gotta be a really good actor to keep the socialist line when being grilled on some issues. It's certainly possible that he is. But I think he's leftist schtick is very different than Obama's. Only one way to find out. Vote for him if you're in NYC. 😁

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I badly want to be wrong, but there's something about these supposed progressives that changes when they get into office and suddenly are confronted with the possibility that they can 100% exploit their office to give their family generational wealth.

    So while I'm cautiously optimistic, most of me is very 'I'll believe it when I see it'.

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  • [–] 35 points 11 months ago

    I believe it's the progressives who realize they're an extremely small minority within the DNC, so you must swallow a few bitter loads to get certain stuff you believe in through while making backroom deals you would never do.

    Ultimately it is up to the American People to shift the Overton window to the left. It is possible, but won't be easy as Democrats cave to Corporations and the media being billionaire owned doesn't help when you're a progressive.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I think part of that is true and part of that is that they just don't get enough votes to actually do things.

    Especially as just a Congressperson you can't change everything all at once. You don't have the same influence as a president. So you pick your battles.

    People here get disappointed they didn't get enough done fast enough and then vote red in the next election hoping for faster change.

    Well, we got faster change. Never seen change as fast as this.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It would also require a group of Republicans with the power to gag him every time he tries to do something.

    Years ago, I saw a list that someone compiled of all of Obama's campaign promises and the results of them, and basically all but one he tried to do and was voted down by Republicans who threatened to shut down the government if Democrats tried to push it through. The one thing he promised and didn't even attempt to do was shutting down Guantanamo Bay. For everything else, the Republicans who controlled both the house and the Senate for 7 and a half years of his presidency shut him out. There's a reason that Trump spent the first two years of his presidency repealing every executive order that Obama made. Besides being racist and upset that a black man held any power in this country, of course.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I feel like mayor is a better jump up for a candidate like Mamdani than President. Also, Mamdani is coming up with a lot more policies that can get implemented. In contrast, Obama ran on far less openly socialist policies outside of healthcare. When it got to healthcare, Obama was relatively hands off when the bill was being written.

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