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Fuhrious Fattie German politician sends Gestapo to arrest person who called her fattie (lemmy.world)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
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Oh how I wished this was satire, but its real LMAO. Really? You're gonna throw someone in jail just because they called you "fat"?

That's real fa(t)cism.

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[–] 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Now this is truly a shit post. It looks shit and reeks of shit made by a shitty American I assume.

You know your constitutional given right of free speech, yes? Yeah but that doesn't entail being free of consequences. Or as the cool kids say: fuck around and find out.

Defamation of public figures has to have consequences especially when they are so god damn shallow as calling Ricarda Lang in 2024 a fattie.

You also don't go to jail over this. But the Platform Provider Gab not cooperating with law enforcement is the real scandal here.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You know your constitutional given right of free speech, yes? Yeah but that doesn't entail being free of consequences

    USians somehow tend to think their constitution applies worldwide 😂

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  • [+] [S] -12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    Yeah freedom of speech SHOULD apply worldwide. Is that really an insane thing to say?

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Freedom of speech is not and should not be unconditional. It does not cover spreading hate or lies.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I don't give a shit about this post or any argument happening, but I am curious about why you think defamation of public figures specifically, has to have consequences?

    I am not a fan of defamation against anyone, but I give the least amount of fucks for any politician. (Maybe one or maybe half of a fuck is given in their case.)

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I think that people don't have to take shit from bullies and we have laws to help victims in this regard.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 10 months ago

    She's the bully. The user who made that comment is the victim. Its one thing to call someone fat, its a totally different thing to throw them in a prison cell.

    If she wants justice, just reply to that comment and call the commenter a fatass too. There problem solved!

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  • [+] [S] -23 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    Lmao GAB is an American platform. They have no obligation to cooperate with Neo-Nazis from Germany ordering them to turn over personal information to imprison an innocent internet user. In fact GAB did the right thing by protecting that person.

    Calling a politician fat is not "defamation". Are you high, friend?

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Ah yes of course, we all are just neo-nazis here in Germany.

    Sod off arsehole and go back to actual fascist USA.

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  • [+] [S] -10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The nazis engaged in propaganda and punished people who spoke ill against their politicians. This is Nazi behavior. And since we're in modern times, they are "Neo Nazis". Neo means "new".

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Yeah no, Nazism has a meaning and this ain't it. Especially when you believe that free speech comes with free of consequences. Not even the US constitution says so.

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  • [+] [S] -9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    Wtf does that mean? "free speech" literally means the ability to air ideas without the threat of violence or persecution. So yes, free speech should come without any legal consequence.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Wrong. Free speech means that nobody denies you your right to speak and or censoring you. Also that only applies to Congress, that they don't deny you those. And those amendments only apply in your country as other nations have different laws.

    Here is the actual text, see if there is any word of freedom of consequences:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    Threatening to throw someone in jail if they insult a politician IS a restriction of free speech. How else do you restrict free speech? They can't install blocking devices inside a person's vocal chords that prevents the speech from even occuring.

    This is like saying speeding is not restricted because people can still push the pedal beyond the speed limit. Of course they can! But there are state enforced consequences for it, which means that speeding is illegal (restricted).

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Oh well, I tried and failed, there is no reason to continue trying to argue with you about this.

    But here is a solution: if a provider can't deal with laws and jurisdiction of other nations, they should make their platform restricted to their respective nation (geofencing, id verification).

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Who are the Neo-Nazis in Germany again? You don't seem to be an expert or even an informed individual on this issue. Not even in the slightest.

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  • [+] [S] -10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    People threatening to imprison members of the public just because they insulted one of their politicians. That definitely sounds like Nazi behavior to me.

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