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Huh, I guess cops arnt always shitty.
Almost every time like the one we are currently living in involves police/military people having to decide where their loyalties lie. Sometimes it's with the people, sometimes it's with the regime. Very often it is different between different agencies (with the lowest-level ones tending to side with the people).
The US is such a patchwork (both organizationally and on in individual level for each cop) that I think there will be a big and chaotic variety. It could range from sheriff's departments headed by Trump-loyal sheriffs who are willing to go to war with city agencies who are trying to protect their people, all the way over to city cops who eventually start actively defending their cities against the feds who are trying to do obviously illegal things there. That last one hasn't happened yet but I think it may be right around the corner. Things are changing. Those city workers telling Kristi Noem to get fucked from being allowed to pee in Broadview City Hall, that stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum.
In just about every way. During "normal" times, that makes for more bureaucracy and Kafka, but the silver lining is that when fascists take over the entire federal government, it's harder for them to tear everything down all at once than if the country were more monolithic.
Yeah. I feel like part of it is just historical / accidental, but also, resisting fascism (in modern terminology) was more or less the absolutely key overriding priority that the US government had built into it at the start.
Even things like having each state run its own mini-election and be in charge of it, instead of a single federal election, start to seem pretty prescient in the current climate.
They just don't care.
ICE called for backup once because of protestors, cops if ored them, so they shot someone in a car because there was traffic, rammed another car in traffic, and then detained at least one US citizen.
Cops want no part of it, it doesn't mean they're out their protecting citizens from ICE, they're likely laughing about it.
They can 100% still be shitty
ICE pepper sprayed cops and protestors alike
Til cpd are less shitty than LAPD.
Cops don't want anyone above them interfering with their ~~city~~ racket.
Cops are weird, it's a mix of 'this our turf, you wanted to come in here so FAFO', laziness, a vague sense of duty directed at ???, and some eclectic variety of incoherent personal politics that separates the feds into the camp of 'other' at least temporarily.
Or they're doing this intentionally hoping that it sparks some bigger conflict, where they along with ICE 'justify' getting to pull out the real big boy toys to use on the populace. Considering the coordination and organization behind the "thin blue line" and my own personal experiences with police, I'm more inclined to believe this than all them suddenly growing a conscience and doing the right thing as an organization.
Nah, the "not in my city" mindset is a far simpler explanation.
Looking at the difference between LAPD and cpd behavior: It's probably because Chicago is a genuinely hard city, and the cpd know they'll be straight up fuvking hunted if they're seen protecting ice. They're not good–they're confident people will provide them with justice if they get caught up in this–as every cop should be
They live there, as do their families.
You don't shit were you eat.
It's not by chance that all throughout History rulers violently imposing their will on the people of a place invariably bring those who will be commiting the violence from somewhere else.
Cops and their families do not live in the places they police, even when offered bonuses to do so.
This is true in a lot of places but I actually looked it up to reply the same thing and as of 2014 at least, 88% of Chicago cops live in Chicago.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-police-dont-live-in-the-cities-they-serve/
Oh, woah. Thats kind of freaky.
Chicago has a rule. To work for the city in any capacity. You MUST live in the city. Police, fire, City Hall, public works. You live in the place you are tasked with protecting or serving. You can't even live in the suburbs 1 block outside city limits.
This is explicitly the opposite in many other places where police are specifically not allowed to live where they police. From what I understand, it's so that there isn't a conflict of interest enforcing rules against neighbors.
Also pig farms.