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ICE to Buy Tool that Tracks Locations of Hundreds of Millions of Phones Every Day (www.404media.co)
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[–] 64 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Bro...my weather app is selling my data? 😦

I just wanted up-to-date travel conditions in a convenient widget. My taxes already pay for the meteorology, why do they need to sell my data too??

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  • [–] 57 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Because greed.

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  • [+] -12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Show me one weather app that's state-sponsored (therefore: paid by taxes) that sells data to boost income.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Nearly every weather app that exists is repackaging data from an official, tax funded source. Apps using weather underground data possibly being the only exception.

    Show me one that doesn't want location permissions and such. So now they've got Your data and can do as they please with it.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    To be fair, a weather app does need to know my location to give relevant information.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Nearly every weather app that exists is repackaging data from an official, tax funded source

    The weather source. Not the application source. A dude needs to sit down and write that part.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Sure, and it would be cool if that dude didn't pass my personal information to a third party.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Breezy Weather

    Not affiliated, just discovered this amazing app relatively recently.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Aaaand we circle back to THIS.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    My taxes already pay for the meteorology

    Yeah, but it got privatized, so now you need to pay more money to a 3rd party to access the services you are already paying money to access.

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  • [+] -20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    If you want the weather info sponsored by your taxes, use the browser.

    If you want a convenient widget, someone needs to make it, and the developer who made that widget needs to eat too.

    You can either buy an app or pay with your data.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You can either buy an app or pay with your data.

    No this implies you get a choice, which you don't. You can get it for free and sell your data, or you can pay for it...and still also sell your data. The real money is in the data, they won't give that up...ever.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Can you use an open source weather app, or is the problem deeper than that?

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    you can deny location position to your weather app. show the weather for cities you are interested in. Get weather by notifications for "seemlessness"

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I was just curious if the app could harvest it anyway via the SDK or something.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not the person who posted the widget issue, but IME many FOSS solutions (not just weather-related) are more often than not aesthetically/UX crap.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago

    Yeah, that's true. Often people will take the money from users AND from selling data. But you can (usually) verify if that's the case by checking the app's permissions required.

    The point stands, however: you either pay for the software with money, or with data - with the only exception being the unusually rare FOSS project here and there, which either lives in relative obscurity or grows to become large enough for the creators to either start requiring money, or just fold under the load...

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    and the developer who made that widget needs to eat too.

    He can eat without selling people's data.

    This isn't about putting food on the table and you're a dipshit if you believe otherwise.

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  • [+] -13 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    He can eat without selling people’s data.

    Yes. By making your app paid, not free. 90% of Apple Store/Google Play store users don't want to pay for apps with their money.

    This isn’t about putting food on the table and you’re a dipshit if you believe otherwise.

    You're childishly naive if you think it's malice 100% of the way top to bottom.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    Yes. By making your app paid, not free. 90% of Apple Store/Google Play store users don’t want to pay for apps with their money.

    No, by doing something else with his life because developing an app is not an all-encompassing behavior.

    You’re childishly naive if you think it’s malice 100% of the way top to bottom.

    No, I'm just not a useful idiot going to bat for people making money off of me.

    I, personally, have made significantly more complicated apps than what you're defending and I don't charge money for it or harvest my user's data. I'm also not alone.

    If we can do it, why can't this scumbag? Oh yeah, because he has useful idiots like you going to bat for him.

    Please, tell me more about how ignorant and innocent you are. It's cute and predictable.

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  • [+] -6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    No, by doing something else with his life because developing an app is not an all-encompassing behavior.

    Buddy, are you suggesting that software developers should "do something else to earn money"?

    Are you high right now?

    No, I’m just not a useful idiot going to bat for people making money off of me.

    Go ahead. Quote the bit where anyone in this thread is batting for anybody.

    I, personally, have made significantly more complicated apps than what you’re defending

    I'm becoming fairly certain that you are high. What exactly am I defending....?

    If we can do it, why can’t this scumbag?

    We can't have a discussion if you don't understand some simple facts of life. Such as: "people need to eat", or "eating costs money", or "not everybody has the privilege of being a software developer as a side-gig", or "not everybody wants or can be a farmer".

    Please, tell me more about how ignorant and innocent you are. It’s cute and predictable.

    Get sober, then read what you wrote again.

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, morons like you will fight tooth and nail to avoid admitting you're being taken for a ride.

    It's in your blood and I don't expect more.

    Keep being stupid.

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