If we wish to change the status quo yet ignore the ones actively challenging it, what are we left with? I can almost guarantee you that a Canonical-produced phone would certainly progress mobile Linux but would not be released as OSHW.

And it sucks last I heard.

I've been using one as my daily-driver since March 2023. It's not a phone for everyone; I wouldn't recommend it to my parents, but it doesn't suck as long as you are not expecting feature parity with flagship proprietary options in a trillion-dollar market. Bugs get squashed over time, and there is power in numbers. Even the iPhone started out somewhere.

And the hardware is very outdated.

I'm sure that Purism would appreciate ideas you may have for an OSHW/FOSS-friendly processor unencumbered by NDA, that's well-documented, has long-term market availability, doesn't take half the real estate of the L5's PCB, would allow more than 2 hr of runtime, that...... you get the idea. Available processor options are limited if the device should be even remotely open. Spinning one from scratch is prohibitively expensive.

@Auli @jcs I'm daily driving a #Librem5 with #postmarketOS and everything really important works for my use case, including legacy unencrypted phone calls (VoLTE), SMS messages, 4G data, Wi-Fi, web browsing, email, #e2ee comms with #SignalApp, #DeltaChat, #Matrix, #XMPP, latest apps from #Flathub, etc.

Even running many Android apps with #Fdroid and #Obtainium work via #Waydroid although I tested that on #PureOS, not #postmarketOS.

Sure it's nowhere as fast as mainstream Android phones and has only basic camera support, but then those aren't my priorities when looking at #freedomtech.

@Auli @jcs sucks is a relative term.