▲ 718 ▼ FFS Plex, the server is on my local network (no.lastname.nz) submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by BlueEther@no.lastname.nz to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world 323 comments fedilink hide all child comments Well I already have jellyfin running in a container, just have to figure out how to get mum's TV to work with it I guess log in on a local IP and not the network name and it's working again. but I'll be moving to jellyfin from now
[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (10 children) the ability to easily watch or listen to friends’ media Why do you think this can't be done with Jellyfin? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] octobob@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago* (6 children) My friends don't have it set up. Some of them are friends of friends, and people I don't talk to regularly. I'm not going to try and convert them. It's also a bit more complicated via tailscale or VPN reverse proxies and Plex "just werks". If there's anything beyond just installing an app and clicking an invite, a bunch of people who use my library are going to have a hard time. Like my dad, he's pushing 70. My friends would also have to do the goofy networking setup for it to work for me. I'm also not even sure if people I share with have means of installing. My one friend who uses my library a lot does it through a Samsung TV. That involves sideloading the app to install jellyfin. Lastly, like I said, music. Plexamp is one of my #1 used apps. There's a lot that goes into that beyond just being able to play media. It curates playlists depending on what you just listened to or gives you similar artists, similar to how Spotify makes a "radio" after playing something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) the thing that everyone always glosses over is that jellyfin should not be run on a public network. it has known security vulnerabilities… that includes VPN remote proxy, so now you have to have external users on your actual VPN, and if that’s the case then plex will work fine because it’s “local”, and has a lot more features (and my main issue: media segments don’t work on swiftfin) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago (4 children) Just use wireguard between the two devices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago* (3 children) i’m not likely to wrangle installing and maintaining wireguard on my mums cheap smart tv and if that’s the solution, as i said you get plex local playback so that’s free still anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago (2 children) Yeah, Plex makes it easy...other than dealing with their cloud data breach. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) which they handled about as well as you can: prompt and clear notification without trying to pass the buck the potential of a data breach is just a fact of life with any SAAS product - bugs happen… and it’s exactly the SAAS part of the product that makes the invites/login/aggregation of servers so smooth permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago I understand people want ease of use, I prefer selfhosting and no cloud intervention just to be safe. But, to be pedantic, we should say cloud or external server, because SAAS just means software as a service, and there are lots of SAAS products that have no cloud aspect and are fully local. permalink fedilink source parent [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) You have to port forward a port and setup dynamic dns, for 99% this is a insurmountable difficulty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) You do not have to port forward. In fact, I would suggest against port forwarding. There are other options to access remotely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago Are these options going to require installation of specialist software and then entering of special configuration parameters on the client computer as rather than just using any standard browser on any internet connected computer and typing yourjellyfindomainname.com ? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] octobob@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago* (6 children) My friends don't have it set up. Some of them are friends of friends, and people I don't talk to regularly. I'm not going to try and convert them. It's also a bit more complicated via tailscale or VPN reverse proxies and Plex "just werks". If there's anything beyond just installing an app and clicking an invite, a bunch of people who use my library are going to have a hard time. Like my dad, he's pushing 70. My friends would also have to do the goofy networking setup for it to work for me. I'm also not even sure if people I share with have means of installing. My one friend who uses my library a lot does it through a Samsung TV. That involves sideloading the app to install jellyfin. Lastly, like I said, music. Plexamp is one of my #1 used apps. There's a lot that goes into that beyond just being able to play media. It curates playlists depending on what you just listened to or gives you similar artists, similar to how Spotify makes a "radio" after playing something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) the thing that everyone always glosses over is that jellyfin should not be run on a public network. it has known security vulnerabilities… that includes VPN remote proxy, so now you have to have external users on your actual VPN, and if that’s the case then plex will work fine because it’s “local”, and has a lot more features (and my main issue: media segments don’t work on swiftfin) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago (4 children) Just use wireguard between the two devices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago* (3 children) i’m not likely to wrangle installing and maintaining wireguard on my mums cheap smart tv and if that’s the solution, as i said you get plex local playback so that’s free still anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago (2 children) Yeah, Plex makes it easy...other than dealing with their cloud data breach. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) which they handled about as well as you can: prompt and clear notification without trying to pass the buck the potential of a data breach is just a fact of life with any SAAS product - bugs happen… and it’s exactly the SAAS part of the product that makes the invites/login/aggregation of servers so smooth permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago I understand people want ease of use, I prefer selfhosting and no cloud intervention just to be safe. But, to be pedantic, we should say cloud or external server, because SAAS just means software as a service, and there are lots of SAAS products that have no cloud aspect and are fully local. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) the thing that everyone always glosses over is that jellyfin should not be run on a public network. it has known security vulnerabilities… that includes VPN remote proxy, so now you have to have external users on your actual VPN, and if that’s the case then plex will work fine because it’s “local”, and has a lot more features (and my main issue: media segments don’t work on swiftfin) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago (4 children) Just use wireguard between the two devices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago* (3 children) i’m not likely to wrangle installing and maintaining wireguard on my mums cheap smart tv and if that’s the solution, as i said you get plex local playback so that’s free still anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago (2 children) Yeah, Plex makes it easy...other than dealing with their cloud data breach. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) which they handled about as well as you can: prompt and clear notification without trying to pass the buck the potential of a data breach is just a fact of life with any SAAS product - bugs happen… and it’s exactly the SAAS part of the product that makes the invites/login/aggregation of servers so smooth permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago I understand people want ease of use, I prefer selfhosting and no cloud intervention just to be safe. But, to be pedantic, we should say cloud or external server, because SAAS just means software as a service, and there are lots of SAAS products that have no cloud aspect and are fully local. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago (4 children) Just use wireguard between the two devices permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago* (3 children) i’m not likely to wrangle installing and maintaining wireguard on my mums cheap smart tv and if that’s the solution, as i said you get plex local playback so that’s free still anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago (2 children) Yeah, Plex makes it easy...other than dealing with their cloud data breach. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) which they handled about as well as you can: prompt and clear notification without trying to pass the buck the potential of a data breach is just a fact of life with any SAAS product - bugs happen… and it’s exactly the SAAS part of the product that makes the invites/login/aggregation of servers so smooth permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago I understand people want ease of use, I prefer selfhosting and no cloud intervention just to be safe. But, to be pedantic, we should say cloud or external server, because SAAS just means software as a service, and there are lots of SAAS products that have no cloud aspect and are fully local. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago* (3 children) i’m not likely to wrangle installing and maintaining wireguard on my mums cheap smart tv and if that’s the solution, as i said you get plex local playback so that’s free still anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago (2 children) Yeah, Plex makes it easy...other than dealing with their cloud data breach. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) which they handled about as well as you can: prompt and clear notification without trying to pass the buck the potential of a data breach is just a fact of life with any SAAS product - bugs happen… and it’s exactly the SAAS part of the product that makes the invites/login/aggregation of servers so smooth permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago I understand people want ease of use, I prefer selfhosting and no cloud intervention just to be safe. But, to be pedantic, we should say cloud or external server, because SAAS just means software as a service, and there are lots of SAAS products that have no cloud aspect and are fully local. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago (2 children) Yeah, Plex makes it easy...other than dealing with their cloud data breach. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) which they handled about as well as you can: prompt and clear notification without trying to pass the buck the potential of a data breach is just a fact of life with any SAAS product - bugs happen… and it’s exactly the SAAS part of the product that makes the invites/login/aggregation of servers so smooth permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago I understand people want ease of use, I prefer selfhosting and no cloud intervention just to be safe. But, to be pedantic, we should say cloud or external server, because SAAS just means software as a service, and there are lots of SAAS products that have no cloud aspect and are fully local. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) which they handled about as well as you can: prompt and clear notification without trying to pass the buck the potential of a data breach is just a fact of life with any SAAS product - bugs happen… and it’s exactly the SAAS part of the product that makes the invites/login/aggregation of servers so smooth permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago I understand people want ease of use, I prefer selfhosting and no cloud intervention just to be safe. But, to be pedantic, we should say cloud or external server, because SAAS just means software as a service, and there are lots of SAAS products that have no cloud aspect and are fully local. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago I understand people want ease of use, I prefer selfhosting and no cloud intervention just to be safe. But, to be pedantic, we should say cloud or external server, because SAAS just means software as a service, and there are lots of SAAS products that have no cloud aspect and are fully local. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) You have to port forward a port and setup dynamic dns, for 99% this is a insurmountable difficulty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) You do not have to port forward. In fact, I would suggest against port forwarding. There are other options to access remotely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago Are these options going to require installation of specialist software and then entering of special configuration parameters on the client computer as rather than just using any standard browser on any internet connected computer and typing yourjellyfindomainname.com ? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) You do not have to port forward. In fact, I would suggest against port forwarding. There are other options to access remotely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago Are these options going to require installation of specialist software and then entering of special configuration parameters on the client computer as rather than just using any standard browser on any internet connected computer and typing yourjellyfindomainname.com ? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago Are these options going to require installation of specialist software and then entering of special configuration parameters on the client computer as rather than just using any standard browser on any internet connected computer and typing yourjellyfindomainname.com ? permalink fedilink source parent