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'This affair is far from over': Disney shareholders are now revolting over Jimmy Kimmel (www.rawstory.com)

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[-] Aquaphobi@lemmy.zip -3 points 7 months ago

What do you mean he didn’t apologize? He did apologize?

[-] JamBandFan1996@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

What did he say?

[-] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

He didn't retract anything or express regret (because there was nothing to retract or regret). He did explain what he meant.

So, as I understand, in the classical meaning, that is an apology. But in the contemporary meaning, it is not.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/the-history-of-the-word-apology

The word's earliest meaning in English was “something said or written in defense or justification of what appears to others to be wrong or of what may be liable to disapprobation."

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So we may instead ask when did the apology start meaning “I’m sorry”?

edit: He also expressed sympathy. Or empathy. I suck at telling the difference.

"That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make, but I understand that felt either ill-timed or unclear, or maybe both. And for those who think I did point a finger, I get why you're upset. If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd have felt the same way.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 15 points 7 months ago

An apology acknowledges the wrong, why it was wrong, and especially a pledge to not repeat it.

He did none of those things, especially the last one.

[-] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

It's easy! Sympathy is for when you've had a similar experience and have felt the feelings the other party feels. Empathy is when you haven't felt the same feelings, but still feel for the other party.

[-] Sirius006@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

TIL

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago

Mixed, What the right wanted out of him was groveling and pain. He certainly didn't do that.

Most of the mid/left wanted to see him come out and say I'm back bitches and you were all wrong, I didn't do shit and that guy who has been on video praising the necessity of gun violence got FAFO'd.

He didn't do that either.

He clarified that he was fired over a nothingburger and whose fault it was and repeated his empathy for the family and how horrible the situation was.

At the very least disney deserved more of a FU, but when neither side gets what they want, and shit returns to normal, negotiations are probably as good as they get.

We'd like to see the Horst Wessel they're building be dismantled. But that's not going to happen here. We're still going to trudge along in the deep red zone of history.