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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) i've heard the term "neoliberal", but not the term "neoconservative" before. mind explaining what that refers to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ScrooLewse@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 1 year ago* (2 children) By dictionary definition, that's all neoliberal. Most Democrats AND Republicans from the past 50-70 years are neoliberal, and even Trumpism is steeped in neoliberalism. At it's core, it is a trust that the "invisible hand" of the free market will keep the ship of society afloat. As though the body commence is some kind of organically-organized supercomputer that seeks to optimize for global prosperity. It looks to unchain the capitalist machine in the same way AI bros seek to unchain their gpt waifu so we can all singularity. To this end, when looking for a neoliberal, you're looking for someone who wants to privatize public services then deregulate and cut taxes for businesses. So despite it having "liberal" in the name, it is a thought movement led by conservatives. Like, Ronald Reagan is one of its staunchest champions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) Is Obama care neoliberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bigfondue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago But they were directing those public companies on how it was spent. Neo Liberal is about lassiez faire capitalism, not social capitalism permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago No permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) For sure. It is a market-centric solution that gave billions of dollars in additional profit to existing health insurance corporations. Especially since the public option was killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Even though neo Liberal is about hands off government. Obama Care directed private companies on how they were to behave. How can that be neo Liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They're only hands off when it comes to things like social safety nets. Obamacare was basically corporate welfare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, forcing conditions on industry is welfare permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* What? Obamacare included an insurance mandate that required everyone to sign up or face penalties. To sign up for healthcare provided by a corporation. It was a major handout. It was literally Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation's plan in MA originally. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago ah yes, the whole universe is the true human body, and the market is the heart. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago Neo-cons are socially conservative politicians who have adopted the neo-liberal economic model permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago For neocon think Bush, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, that whole gang. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago Most of the neo-cons transformed into MAGA permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ScrooLewse@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 1 year ago* (2 children) By dictionary definition, that's all neoliberal. Most Democrats AND Republicans from the past 50-70 years are neoliberal, and even Trumpism is steeped in neoliberalism. At it's core, it is a trust that the "invisible hand" of the free market will keep the ship of society afloat. As though the body commence is some kind of organically-organized supercomputer that seeks to optimize for global prosperity. It looks to unchain the capitalist machine in the same way AI bros seek to unchain their gpt waifu so we can all singularity. To this end, when looking for a neoliberal, you're looking for someone who wants to privatize public services then deregulate and cut taxes for businesses. So despite it having "liberal" in the name, it is a thought movement led by conservatives. Like, Ronald Reagan is one of its staunchest champions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) Is Obama care neoliberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bigfondue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago But they were directing those public companies on how it was spent. Neo Liberal is about lassiez faire capitalism, not social capitalism permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago No permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) For sure. It is a market-centric solution that gave billions of dollars in additional profit to existing health insurance corporations. Especially since the public option was killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Even though neo Liberal is about hands off government. Obama Care directed private companies on how they were to behave. How can that be neo Liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They're only hands off when it comes to things like social safety nets. Obamacare was basically corporate welfare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, forcing conditions on industry is welfare permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* What? Obamacare included an insurance mandate that required everyone to sign up or face penalties. To sign up for healthcare provided by a corporation. It was a major handout. It was literally Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation's plan in MA originally. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago ah yes, the whole universe is the true human body, and the market is the heart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) Is Obama care neoliberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] bigfondue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago But they were directing those public companies on how it was spent. Neo Liberal is about lassiez faire capitalism, not social capitalism permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago No permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) For sure. It is a market-centric solution that gave billions of dollars in additional profit to existing health insurance corporations. Especially since the public option was killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Even though neo Liberal is about hands off government. Obama Care directed private companies on how they were to behave. How can that be neo Liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They're only hands off when it comes to things like social safety nets. Obamacare was basically corporate welfare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, forcing conditions on industry is welfare permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* What? Obamacare included an insurance mandate that required everyone to sign up or face penalties. To sign up for healthcare provided by a corporation. It was a major handout. It was literally Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation's plan in MA originally. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bigfondue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago But they were directing those public companies on how it was spent. Neo Liberal is about lassiez faire capitalism, not social capitalism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago But they were directing those public companies on how it was spent. Neo Liberal is about lassiez faire capitalism, not social capitalism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago No permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) For sure. It is a market-centric solution that gave billions of dollars in additional profit to existing health insurance corporations. Especially since the public option was killed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Even though neo Liberal is about hands off government. Obama Care directed private companies on how they were to behave. How can that be neo Liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They're only hands off when it comes to things like social safety nets. Obamacare was basically corporate welfare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, forcing conditions on industry is welfare permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* What? Obamacare included an insurance mandate that required everyone to sign up or face penalties. To sign up for healthcare provided by a corporation. It was a major handout. It was literally Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation's plan in MA originally. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Even though neo Liberal is about hands off government. Obama Care directed private companies on how they were to behave. How can that be neo Liberal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They're only hands off when it comes to things like social safety nets. Obamacare was basically corporate welfare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, forcing conditions on industry is welfare permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* What? Obamacare included an insurance mandate that required everyone to sign up or face penalties. To sign up for healthcare provided by a corporation. It was a major handout. It was literally Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation's plan in MA originally. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) They're only hands off when it comes to things like social safety nets. Obamacare was basically corporate welfare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, forcing conditions on industry is welfare permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* What? Obamacare included an insurance mandate that required everyone to sign up or face penalties. To sign up for healthcare provided by a corporation. It was a major handout. It was literally Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation's plan in MA originally. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea, forcing conditions on industry is welfare permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* What? Obamacare included an insurance mandate that required everyone to sign up or face penalties. To sign up for healthcare provided by a corporation. It was a major handout. It was literally Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation's plan in MA originally. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* What? Obamacare included an insurance mandate that required everyone to sign up or face penalties. To sign up for healthcare provided by a corporation. It was a major handout. It was literally Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation's plan in MA originally. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago ah yes, the whole universe is the true human body, and the market is the heart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago Neo-cons are socially conservative politicians who have adopted the neo-liberal economic model permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago For neocon think Bush, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, that whole gang. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago Most of the neo-cons transformed into MAGA permalink fedilink source parent