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[–] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

EDIT: corrected post with biweekly to monthly pay

My point is that $160k is enough for anybody. That much per person would give any household a very comfortable lifestyle even in a HCOL area.

$160k/year is way low to live a "very comfortable lifestyle", even more so especially in a HCOL area.

Lets use NYC as an example of a HCOL area. Here's what that looks like for take-home pay:

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Lets call it $8,800/month to make it easy.

So a person needs to house themselves. Lets look at NYC rents. Here's median prices:

And here's some specifics from a few places in the city:

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So looking at the cheapest of the 3 listed here, the small 1 br 1 bath place in the East Village will set you back about $3200/month. Of our $8,800, we now have just $5,600/month for every other living necessities including food, transportation, clothing, and the big budget killer we haven't talked about yet...health insurance/healthcare.

All of this also assumes a person would be single. If they have children a 1br apartment isn't going to cut it, and the costs for raising children are also a large increase in monthly money burn. People still have to save for retirement too.

$160k/year is way low for: "That much per person would give any household a very comfortable lifestyle even in a HCOL area."

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  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    $160k / 12mo. ≈ $13k / mo.

    You threw away $100k annually, chum.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    First, thank you for pointing out I made a mistake. I didn't see the calculator broke it into twice a month paychecks.

    Take home for one month for $160k/year would be: $8,784

    I'll correct my post, but $160k/year is still way too low to meet your “That much per person would give any household a very comfortable lifestyle even in a HCOL area.”

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    You're taking out too much tax. Closer to $9,300.

    A household of two adults would have $320k gross annually, so twice that.

    Also, I'm comfortably supporting two adults in a HCOL area, with a mortgage and high medical bills, for under $125k annually.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A household of two adults would have $320k gross annually, so twice that.

    You don't think that's moving the goalpost just a bit by doubling the number of earners?

    Also, I’m comfortably supporting two adults in a HCOL area, with a mortgage and high medical bills, for under $125k annually.

    I'd be interested to hear how you're accomplishing that. At a minimum, can I ask what your housing costs are?

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I changed nothing about my original comment. I said per person, not household.

    Mortgage payment is currently $5,500 / mo. Note that this is not an income of $125k annually, but net expenses as recorded over the past few years.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Max out a 401k and IRA and lmk how much is left

    (less than 8k/mo)

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What does that have to do with living costs?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Because you can't work forever. Burnout, aging, illness, etc. Life happens. Or do you plan to live paycheck to paycheck into your 70s?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm just thinking about the "take home" figure! 160k doesn't stretch as far as I thought it did when I was a kid

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    I thought $40k was more than enough when I was a kid. But that was when you could buy a house for $30k to $50k. By the time I hit my 20s, inflation already had homes at closer to $100k, and the cost of everything much higher than when I was a kid.

    When I was growing up I didn't know anyone making more than $50k, most made less, and they were doing fine, owning homes, etc. $160k was wealthy.

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