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American "left" and "liberal" can't decide if they're in the same nutshell. (lemmy.world)
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[–] 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

What gained ground?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    No ground was gained Trump won. Decades of progress erased in 7 months. The genocide in Israel has accelerated. And our economy is crashing.

    If Dems won and kept things as they were 7 months ago everything would be demonstrably better than they are now.

    Would there still be issues? Of course there are always issues, but it would have been much better.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    While this is all true, i can't imagine that the left would have been celebrating a democratic win today if she won in the fall. If they truly wanted a democratic win (or to gain an inch) they would have pinched their noses and voted for Kamala

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That's true I guess. Way too superficial for my liking, but that's outside the scope of this conversation. The person I replied to said there would be (small) gains from electing Harris, not just less losses, so I was asking for them yo elaborate.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    To address small gains I could have seen at the very least Roe v. Wade being codified by a Harris White House.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Gay marriage rights, the railroad unions got their sick leave, the rich were being audited created serious revenue gains and if the DNC were in charge then the TCJA wouldn't have been renewed meaning even more taxing of the rich.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    The railroad unions thing is patently false (they wanted a lot more sick leave and a lot more than sick leave), but also: I'm asking what would've improved, not what would've not deteriorated or what improved in the past.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Okay I'm sorry that decades of evidence of improvements aren't enough to convince you that things would have improved again, but then my statement about the TCJA expiring in 2026 and not becoming permanent still qualifies as an answer. We would be taxing the fucking rich. How can you even pretend that's not what we should be doing?

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