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Mozilla under fire for Firefox AI "bloat" that blows up CPU and drains battery (www.neowin.net)
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[–] 9 points 1 year ago (15 children)

even without AI, to me tab groups are already feature creep bloat in browsers. do people really put that much effort into organizing tabs?

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I like the tab groups. I use them often at work to group an issue with related tabs and my attempts at solving it. Also makes it easier to pause work on one problem and work on something else because I have the tabs grouper and know exactly where to go back.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I like the tab groups.

    And nobody should stop you installing an extension that provides tab groups. I agree with the other commentator that some features can be left to extensions and don't need to be part of the core web browser, though.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    True, but I'm not sure that an extension would have the necessary access to manipulate the browser like that. I don't think it should. A malicious extension could do horrible things.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I’m not sure that an extension would have the necessary access to manipulate the browser like that.

    I don't know if they still do but they used to have. That, however, is something to discuss with the genius decision makers at Mozilla who decide to break extension APIs every couple of years. Firefox on Android still hasn't recovered from last time.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No, but I think the idea of a second layer of organization to tabs is a wonderful idea. Maybe not a gig of RAM to sort them, sure.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yes, especially at work. Different tasks, different tab groups. Once the task is done, the group dies. Really useful when working on multiple tasks at "the same time".

    Pair that with multi account containers and temporary containers and it's a godsend tool for web dev.

    Now does that need AI in any capacity? Absolutely not! I'm more upset that they're even considering such thing because ir sounds utterly useless. A browser should do the browser thing and get out of my way.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    You probably look at tabs as something inherently transient. In my tab group powered workflow a lot of tabs are persistent between browser restarts and stay open at all times. To try to formalize it, there is a set of core tabs that are permanently open, and there are transient tabs are opened and closed from those core tabs. Before tab groups I used "Tree Style Tab" extension but I like tab groups more. It's especially cool tab groups are integrated well with containers so that you can have for example I2P tab group tied to I2P container configured to use I2P proxy port to automatically browse all tabs opened within group through your I2P proxy port.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It is to some people. My approach though, when I happen to have multiple "work group" to organize, is just to use my OS ability to have multiple windows. No need for any extra bloat, the feature is already there, and it works as I'm used to.

    But apparently, using the tools already available to you is not a common skill these days :(

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    But apparently, using the tools already available to you is not a common skill these days :(

    So, are you not understanding that other people work differently, or are you just not using that skill?

    Besides offering different approaches for different preferences, there are clear benefits to the extra level of organization. As an additional exercise, try to picture someone using multiple windows and tab groups.

    Not everyone operates on the basic level. Hell, why even have tabs? The OS can manage multiple windows, and you can use multiple desktops to achieve the same result without that bloat.

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