963
Tucson City Council votes 7-0, unanimously to kill controversial Data Center (files.catbox.moe)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by to c/technology@lemmy.world
104 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

https://azluminaria.org/2025/08/06/tucson-city-council-rejects-project-blue-amid-intense-community-pressure/

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[+] -6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

We could simply stop using amazon services and they won't be build anymore.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 20 child comments
    •
  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Good luck using the internet while avoiding AWS

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I have VPS’s in Quebec, running on mostly hydroelectric power, in a place without water supply concerns for locals, in a cooler climate. OVH in this case, but there are others. Can’t control what random websites are hosted on, but can avoid giving money to this crazyness.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't use AWS! Are all the data centers gone yet?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    How do you know that this instance isn't running on AWS?

    Any link that you click on which takes you to an external website has a large probability of taking you to an AWS datacenter.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Clearly I need to pull myself up by my bootstraps and checks notes change how large portions of the Internet get their compute.

    I'm gonna use up all the fresh water just popping down to the data center for some AWS compute time, as a treat.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm sure you don't actually understand how this functions but the reason that products aren't really available on storefronts anymore is because they're sold on Amazon.

    We created a monster.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have somehow avoided Amazon all these years. It’s easy for me, nothing I require is connected to Amazon.

    I’m sure there are aspects of the business that I can’t avoid that I don’t even know I’m being dragged into, but I don’t spend my money with them.

    Anytime I can’t find something somewhere else, I just move on and forget about it.

    The only times I’ve ever been bummed about it is when I’m working on some small project and the parts are half the price on Amazon. Most recently, it was parts for an arcade machine.

    If I’m being inconvenienced, I don’t even know it.

    I walked away originally when they acquired cdnow.com. I last visited the site when it began redirecting to Amazon.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)
    [deleted]
  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
    •
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Are you familiar with AWS? Amazon Web services. Many, many, websites use them and I don't think there's a way to tell as a user.

    Like, you go to a website and their images are hosted on s3 (an aws service) and their database is on RDS (also AWS), and their whole backend application is using eks or ecs or whatever.

    That's extremely common. Companies don't run their own hardware anymore very often.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I never understood the popularity of AWS. It's much cheaper using VPSs and even dedicated servers sometimes. I've worked on very cost-sensitive projects where I rolled our own highly-available k8s and postgres clusters on dedicated servers and VPSs and saved the company a shit load of money. Only used the "cloud" to store backups (Backblaze). There's tons of other options other than major "cloud" providers, and they're often much cheaper.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
    [deleted]
  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Google and Microsoft have competing services, but those companies also suck. I think they're less popular, but I don't know much about why.

    I'm not aware of any smaller competitors, though some probably exist. It would be a big risk for a company to go with a new provider. There's a lot of library support for the big players, for one thing. If you want your python application to talk to AWS, the boto library is just right there.

    You could run your own hardware somewhere, but that has its own host of problems, if you'll pardon the pun. I worked somewhere a long time ago that had its own servers in a data center. The place got flooded in a big storm and we were down for a couple days.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •