▲ 147 ▼ What is piefed? (feddit.uk) submitted 1 year ago by florge@feddit.uk to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world 84 comments fedilink hide all child comments Is just the same as lemmy? What makes it different? Is it similar to kbin? Why is it meant to be better according so some people?
[–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 75 points 1 year ago (10 children) https://join.piefed.social/features/ Differences between Lemmy and PieFed Comments with -10 score are collapsed by default. Communities are organized into topics. See https://piefed.social/topics. Image-heavy communities can have a tiled/masonry view, like https://piefed.social/c/pics@lemmy.world People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it. Hide all posts based on keyword filters. Keyboard shortcuts. Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation. Better UI design (somewhat subjective!) Improved hotness ranking algorithm (subjective) Voting is private. See also features for healthy communities. Each community has it’s own wiki. Demo permalink fedilink source hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children) Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation. Is this self-designated? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 18 points 1 year ago I have no idea! I'm already hosting Lemmy so I don't really see the point personally. Just thought I'd look it up for OP. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rimu@piefed.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, admins designate it. Most instances do not use this feature, afaik. piefed.social does but most of the others do not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) In the code there is a function that recognizes if the name of the community contains "meme" and if so does not add the upvote to the vote counter of the user permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) I wrote that code. It can be turned off or on by the instance admin. When an instance is created It's off by default. Originally, when I wrote the feature comparison page, it could not be turned off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I think either way could possibly be exploited. And putting all that aside, I think all image-centric subs should probably be included. It’s just as easy to farm karma with cute cats and flowers as it is with memes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Excluding OC communities, right? Like you're not discounting people who put a lot of time and effort into their photography? Or even if they're not great photographers sharing pictures of their plants and gardens and hobbies, and pets, should have the same allowances as text only posts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is a great comment; my initial reaction was “No because it would be easy to claim others OC was your own” but then the same could be said about text or link contributions. Then I thought “well maybe reputation should only be based on comments” but that could be unfair to those who primarily post vs comment. So now I don’t know what my position is. The best method is probably a blend of multiple strategies that can only be determined by engaging with the enemy. tl;dr: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I appreciate this! Generally oc forward subs are very stringent about it truly being OC and if caught posting something that isn't theirs will face consequences Blurry pics of a cat's right up on the lens is low effort. Any pictures you see posted in a place like https://lemmy.world/c/astrophotography will not be low effort because those are removed. They also require the submissions to be OC permalink fedilink source parent [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) Comments with -10 score are collapsed by default. Voting is private. I don't particularly care for these two items. I used to think user-curation was a good thing, but comparing Lemmy to Reddit, I have to say I no longer feel that way. Voting matters less on Lemmy and I think it's better for it, all things considered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago The -10 can be changed in your settings. Set it to -1000 to show everything :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hide all posts based on keyword filters. I'm very interested in this. I'm kinda stunned that lemmy doesn't do this natively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) The Voyager client can do that. I use it a lot! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago I use connect which also does that. IMO, it should be native. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago I can tell you it's life changing permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) How exactly does the private vote thing work? I thought votes being federated was inherent to the way the fediverse is designed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I believe piefed creates fake accounts to do the voting so it doesn't federate the actual account that cast the vote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) That's how it used to work but I got rid of it because there were too many unintended side-effects. Now a private vote is just one that is not federated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) What were the side-effects? I was thinking of implementing something that doesn't directly federate votes, so it would be good to know what problems I'd need to solve before that can be done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* Some admins really love watching who votes for what and banning people based on that. You can disagree with that if you like but if it means they get pissed enough to defederate your whole instance, you lose. If your instance is just you and a handful of others, no one will notice or care. But once you have 1000 users the amount of anonymous votes will be noticed and there will be consequences. Maybe not defederation but everyone banned for upvoting bigoted content or vote manipulation will migrate to your instance and you'll be hosting the biggest shitbirds around. I don't see a solution to this. As long as admins snoop on people's votes that will be the dynamic and PieFed puts itself at a disadvantage by doing anything different. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Private votes are just normal votes except without the federation. So their effect is only felt on the local instance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it. Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation. I think any kind of reputation score should be community specific. There are users whose commenting style fits one community but not another, and their overall reputation should be understood in the context of which communities actually like them rather than some kind of global average. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blarghly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Time for another fork... sigh... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago We now have thirteen competing standards! permalink fedilink source parent [–] dil@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Id say I say some controversial things yet I still somehow on average go positive karma wise, you have to be straight up hateful and ignorant on purpose to go negative imo permalink fedilink source parent [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children) I'm not able to see any content behind those links or even the root site of https://piefed.social/ without what looks like creating an account and logging in. Is account creation and login required to interact with piefed at all? No anonymous reading? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 10 points 1 year ago This is a temporary measure to reduce load on the server from AI scrapers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Same here, so I'd assume so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Gotcha. That's a non-starter for me then. I hope I'm not the intended audience for piefed. I never visit Facebook pages for the same reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I could be entirely wrong, but that's what it looks like, yeah. Absolutely hate registration walls as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* "I just want to see what's there" "Make an account first." "Is it worth making an account?" "Make an account and find out" "Oh you must provide a valid email to verify" "Surprise fucker its spam forever" permalink fedilink source parent [–] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) You could check out another instance, for example https://feddit.online/ , which is visible without signing in. Piefed.social used to be open for all, but I suspect it needed to be restricted due to AI scrapers. Not sure exactly what the reasoning is though. You can find a list of instances here: https://fedidb.com/software/piefed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) [–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago !lego@piefed.social is an example of Piefed commmunity permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (8 children) Also @rimu@piefed.social , is the login wall new? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments load more comments (8 replies) [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) This might need updating, I think the private voting feature was removed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 1 year ago Indeed, I raised to Rimu to review that page permalink fedilink source parent [–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago Sounds neat permalink fedilink source parent [–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I don't like the fact that users receive a banner next to their name if they get downvoted a lot. This makes other people judge negatively the comment even before reading it. I think it also encourages people to keep downvoting and discourages to upvote (as what happens with mass down votes of a comment on Reddit just for the sake of doing so). Edit: sorry for my English, it's not my native language + I just woke up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children) Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation. Is this self-designated? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 18 points 1 year ago I have no idea! I'm already hosting Lemmy so I don't really see the point personally. Just thought I'd look it up for OP. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rimu@piefed.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, admins designate it. Most instances do not use this feature, afaik. piefed.social does but most of the others do not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) In the code there is a function that recognizes if the name of the community contains "meme" and if so does not add the upvote to the vote counter of the user permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) I wrote that code. It can be turned off or on by the instance admin. When an instance is created It's off by default. Originally, when I wrote the feature comparison page, it could not be turned off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) [+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I think either way could possibly be exploited. And putting all that aside, I think all image-centric subs should probably be included. It’s just as easy to farm karma with cute cats and flowers as it is with memes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Excluding OC communities, right? Like you're not discounting people who put a lot of time and effort into their photography? Or even if they're not great photographers sharing pictures of their plants and gardens and hobbies, and pets, should have the same allowances as text only posts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is a great comment; my initial reaction was “No because it would be easy to claim others OC was your own” but then the same could be said about text or link contributions. Then I thought “well maybe reputation should only be based on comments” but that could be unfair to those who primarily post vs comment. So now I don’t know what my position is. The best method is probably a blend of multiple strategies that can only be determined by engaging with the enemy. tl;dr: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I appreciate this! Generally oc forward subs are very stringent about it truly being OC and if caught posting something that isn't theirs will face consequences Blurry pics of a cat's right up on the lens is low effort. Any pictures you see posted in a place like https://lemmy.world/c/astrophotography will not be low effort because those are removed. They also require the submissions to be OC permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 18 points 1 year ago I have no idea! I'm already hosting Lemmy so I don't really see the point personally. Just thought I'd look it up for OP. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rimu@piefed.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, admins designate it. Most instances do not use this feature, afaik. piefed.social does but most of the others do not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) In the code there is a function that recognizes if the name of the community contains "meme" and if so does not add the upvote to the vote counter of the user permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) I wrote that code. It can be turned off or on by the instance admin. When an instance is created It's off by default. Originally, when I wrote the feature comparison page, it could not be turned off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) In the code there is a function that recognizes if the name of the community contains "meme" and if so does not add the upvote to the vote counter of the user permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) I wrote that code. It can be turned off or on by the instance admin. When an instance is created It's off by default. Originally, when I wrote the feature comparison page, it could not be turned off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) I wrote that code. It can be turned off or on by the instance admin. When an instance is created It's off by default. Originally, when I wrote the feature comparison page, it could not be turned off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I think either way could possibly be exploited. And putting all that aside, I think all image-centric subs should probably be included. It’s just as easy to farm karma with cute cats and flowers as it is with memes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Excluding OC communities, right? Like you're not discounting people who put a lot of time and effort into their photography? Or even if they're not great photographers sharing pictures of their plants and gardens and hobbies, and pets, should have the same allowances as text only posts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is a great comment; my initial reaction was “No because it would be easy to claim others OC was your own” but then the same could be said about text or link contributions. Then I thought “well maybe reputation should only be based on comments” but that could be unfair to those who primarily post vs comment. So now I don’t know what my position is. The best method is probably a blend of multiple strategies that can only be determined by engaging with the enemy. tl;dr: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I appreciate this! Generally oc forward subs are very stringent about it truly being OC and if caught posting something that isn't theirs will face consequences Blurry pics of a cat's right up on the lens is low effort. Any pictures you see posted in a place like https://lemmy.world/c/astrophotography will not be low effort because those are removed. They also require the submissions to be OC permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I think either way could possibly be exploited. And putting all that aside, I think all image-centric subs should probably be included. It’s just as easy to farm karma with cute cats and flowers as it is with memes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Excluding OC communities, right? Like you're not discounting people who put a lot of time and effort into their photography? Or even if they're not great photographers sharing pictures of their plants and gardens and hobbies, and pets, should have the same allowances as text only posts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is a great comment; my initial reaction was “No because it would be easy to claim others OC was your own” but then the same could be said about text or link contributions. Then I thought “well maybe reputation should only be based on comments” but that could be unfair to those who primarily post vs comment. So now I don’t know what my position is. The best method is probably a blend of multiple strategies that can only be determined by engaging with the enemy. tl;dr: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I appreciate this! Generally oc forward subs are very stringent about it truly being OC and if caught posting something that isn't theirs will face consequences Blurry pics of a cat's right up on the lens is low effort. Any pictures you see posted in a place like https://lemmy.world/c/astrophotography will not be low effort because those are removed. They also require the submissions to be OC permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Excluding OC communities, right? Like you're not discounting people who put a lot of time and effort into their photography? Or even if they're not great photographers sharing pictures of their plants and gardens and hobbies, and pets, should have the same allowances as text only posts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ccunning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is a great comment; my initial reaction was “No because it would be easy to claim others OC was your own” but then the same could be said about text or link contributions. Then I thought “well maybe reputation should only be based on comments” but that could be unfair to those who primarily post vs comment. So now I don’t know what my position is. The best method is probably a blend of multiple strategies that can only be determined by engaging with the enemy. tl;dr: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I appreciate this! Generally oc forward subs are very stringent about it truly being OC and if caught posting something that isn't theirs will face consequences Blurry pics of a cat's right up on the lens is low effort. Any pictures you see posted in a place like https://lemmy.world/c/astrophotography will not be low effort because those are removed. They also require the submissions to be OC permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) This is a great comment; my initial reaction was “No because it would be easy to claim others OC was your own” but then the same could be said about text or link contributions. Then I thought “well maybe reputation should only be based on comments” but that could be unfair to those who primarily post vs comment. So now I don’t know what my position is. The best method is probably a blend of multiple strategies that can only be determined by engaging with the enemy. tl;dr: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I appreciate this! Generally oc forward subs are very stringent about it truly being OC and if caught posting something that isn't theirs will face consequences Blurry pics of a cat's right up on the lens is low effort. Any pictures you see posted in a place like https://lemmy.world/c/astrophotography will not be low effort because those are removed. They also require the submissions to be OC permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tpyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago I appreciate this! Generally oc forward subs are very stringent about it truly being OC and if caught posting something that isn't theirs will face consequences Blurry pics of a cat's right up on the lens is low effort. Any pictures you see posted in a place like https://lemmy.world/c/astrophotography will not be low effort because those are removed. They also require the submissions to be OC permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 child) Comments with -10 score are collapsed by default. Voting is private. I don't particularly care for these two items. I used to think user-curation was a good thing, but comparing Lemmy to Reddit, I have to say I no longer feel that way. Voting matters less on Lemmy and I think it's better for it, all things considered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago The -10 can be changed in your settings. Set it to -1000 to show everything :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago The -10 can be changed in your settings. Set it to -1000 to show everything :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 year ago (2 children) Hide all posts based on keyword filters. I'm very interested in this. I'm kinda stunned that lemmy doesn't do this natively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) The Voyager client can do that. I use it a lot! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago I use connect which also does that. IMO, it should be native. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago I can tell you it's life changing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) The Voyager client can do that. I use it a lot! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago I use connect which also does that. IMO, it should be native. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago I use connect which also does that. IMO, it should be native. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago I can tell you it's life changing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) How exactly does the private vote thing work? I thought votes being federated was inherent to the way the fediverse is designed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I believe piefed creates fake accounts to do the voting so it doesn't federate the actual account that cast the vote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) That's how it used to work but I got rid of it because there were too many unintended side-effects. Now a private vote is just one that is not federated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) What were the side-effects? I was thinking of implementing something that doesn't directly federate votes, so it would be good to know what problems I'd need to solve before that can be done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* Some admins really love watching who votes for what and banning people based on that. You can disagree with that if you like but if it means they get pissed enough to defederate your whole instance, you lose. If your instance is just you and a handful of others, no one will notice or care. But once you have 1000 users the amount of anonymous votes will be noticed and there will be consequences. Maybe not defederation but everyone banned for upvoting bigoted content or vote manipulation will migrate to your instance and you'll be hosting the biggest shitbirds around. I don't see a solution to this. As long as admins snoop on people's votes that will be the dynamic and PieFed puts itself at a disadvantage by doing anything different. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Private votes are just normal votes except without the federation. So their effect is only felt on the local instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I believe piefed creates fake accounts to do the voting so it doesn't federate the actual account that cast the vote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) That's how it used to work but I got rid of it because there were too many unintended side-effects. Now a private vote is just one that is not federated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) What were the side-effects? I was thinking of implementing something that doesn't directly federate votes, so it would be good to know what problems I'd need to solve before that can be done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* Some admins really love watching who votes for what and banning people based on that. You can disagree with that if you like but if it means they get pissed enough to defederate your whole instance, you lose. If your instance is just you and a handful of others, no one will notice or care. But once you have 1000 users the amount of anonymous votes will be noticed and there will be consequences. Maybe not defederation but everyone banned for upvoting bigoted content or vote manipulation will migrate to your instance and you'll be hosting the biggest shitbirds around. I don't see a solution to this. As long as admins snoop on people's votes that will be the dynamic and PieFed puts itself at a disadvantage by doing anything different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) That's how it used to work but I got rid of it because there were too many unintended side-effects. Now a private vote is just one that is not federated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) What were the side-effects? I was thinking of implementing something that doesn't directly federate votes, so it would be good to know what problems I'd need to solve before that can be done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* Some admins really love watching who votes for what and banning people based on that. You can disagree with that if you like but if it means they get pissed enough to defederate your whole instance, you lose. If your instance is just you and a handful of others, no one will notice or care. But once you have 1000 users the amount of anonymous votes will be noticed and there will be consequences. Maybe not defederation but everyone banned for upvoting bigoted content or vote manipulation will migrate to your instance and you'll be hosting the biggest shitbirds around. I don't see a solution to this. As long as admins snoop on people's votes that will be the dynamic and PieFed puts itself at a disadvantage by doing anything different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) What were the side-effects? I was thinking of implementing something that doesn't directly federate votes, so it would be good to know what problems I'd need to solve before that can be done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* Some admins really love watching who votes for what and banning people based on that. You can disagree with that if you like but if it means they get pissed enough to defederate your whole instance, you lose. If your instance is just you and a handful of others, no one will notice or care. But once you have 1000 users the amount of anonymous votes will be noticed and there will be consequences. Maybe not defederation but everyone banned for upvoting bigoted content or vote manipulation will migrate to your instance and you'll be hosting the biggest shitbirds around. I don't see a solution to this. As long as admins snoop on people's votes that will be the dynamic and PieFed puts itself at a disadvantage by doing anything different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* Some admins really love watching who votes for what and banning people based on that. You can disagree with that if you like but if it means they get pissed enough to defederate your whole instance, you lose. If your instance is just you and a handful of others, no one will notice or care. But once you have 1000 users the amount of anonymous votes will be noticed and there will be consequences. Maybe not defederation but everyone banned for upvoting bigoted content or vote manipulation will migrate to your instance and you'll be hosting the biggest shitbirds around. I don't see a solution to this. As long as admins snoop on people's votes that will be the dynamic and PieFed puts itself at a disadvantage by doing anything different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rimu@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Private votes are just normal votes except without the federation. So their effect is only felt on the local instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it. Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation. I think any kind of reputation score should be community specific. There are users whose commenting style fits one community but not another, and their overall reputation should be understood in the context of which communities actually like them rather than some kind of global average. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] blarghly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Time for another fork... sigh... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago We now have thirteen competing standards! permalink fedilink source parent [–] dil@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Id say I say some controversial things yet I still somehow on average go positive karma wise, you have to be straight up hateful and ignorant on purpose to go negative imo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Time for another fork... sigh... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago We now have thirteen competing standards! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago We now have thirteen competing standards! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dil@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Id say I say some controversial things yet I still somehow on average go positive karma wise, you have to be straight up hateful and ignorant on purpose to go negative imo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children) I'm not able to see any content behind those links or even the root site of https://piefed.social/ without what looks like creating an account and logging in. Is account creation and login required to interact with piefed at all? No anonymous reading? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] rimu@piefed.social 10 points 1 year ago This is a temporary measure to reduce load on the server from AI scrapers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Same here, so I'd assume so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Gotcha. That's a non-starter for me then. I hope I'm not the intended audience for piefed. I never visit Facebook pages for the same reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I could be entirely wrong, but that's what it looks like, yeah. Absolutely hate registration walls as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* "I just want to see what's there" "Make an account first." "Is it worth making an account?" "Make an account and find out" "Oh you must provide a valid email to verify" "Surprise fucker its spam forever" permalink fedilink source parent [–] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) You could check out another instance, for example https://feddit.online/ , which is visible without signing in. Piefed.social used to be open for all, but I suspect it needed to be restricted due to AI scrapers. Not sure exactly what the reasoning is though. You can find a list of instances here: https://fedidb.com/software/piefed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) [–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago !lego@piefed.social is an example of Piefed commmunity permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (8 children) Also @rimu@piefed.social , is the login wall new? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments load more comments (8 replies)
[–] rimu@piefed.social 10 points 1 year ago This is a temporary measure to reduce load on the server from AI scrapers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Same here, so I'd assume so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Gotcha. That's a non-starter for me then. I hope I'm not the intended audience for piefed. I never visit Facebook pages for the same reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I could be entirely wrong, but that's what it looks like, yeah. Absolutely hate registration walls as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* "I just want to see what's there" "Make an account first." "Is it worth making an account?" "Make an account and find out" "Oh you must provide a valid email to verify" "Surprise fucker its spam forever" permalink fedilink source parent [–] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) You could check out another instance, for example https://feddit.online/ , which is visible without signing in. Piefed.social used to be open for all, but I suspect it needed to be restricted due to AI scrapers. Not sure exactly what the reasoning is though. You can find a list of instances here: https://fedidb.com/software/piefed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies)
[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Gotcha. That's a non-starter for me then. I hope I'm not the intended audience for piefed. I never visit Facebook pages for the same reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I could be entirely wrong, but that's what it looks like, yeah. Absolutely hate registration walls as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* "I just want to see what's there" "Make an account first." "Is it worth making an account?" "Make an account and find out" "Oh you must provide a valid email to verify" "Surprise fucker its spam forever" permalink fedilink source parent [–] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) You could check out another instance, for example https://feddit.online/ , which is visible without signing in. Piefed.social used to be open for all, but I suspect it needed to be restricted due to AI scrapers. Not sure exactly what the reasoning is though. You can find a list of instances here: https://fedidb.com/software/piefed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies)
[–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I could be entirely wrong, but that's what it looks like, yeah. Absolutely hate registration walls as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* "I just want to see what's there" "Make an account first." "Is it worth making an account?" "Make an account and find out" "Oh you must provide a valid email to verify" "Surprise fucker its spam forever" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* "I just want to see what's there" "Make an account first." "Is it worth making an account?" "Make an account and find out" "Oh you must provide a valid email to verify" "Surprise fucker its spam forever" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) You could check out another instance, for example https://feddit.online/ , which is visible without signing in. Piefed.social used to be open for all, but I suspect it needed to be restricted due to AI scrapers. Not sure exactly what the reasoning is though. You can find a list of instances here: https://fedidb.com/software/piefed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago !lego@piefed.social is an example of Piefed commmunity permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (8 children) Also @rimu@piefed.social , is the login wall new? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments load more comments (8 replies)
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) This might need updating, I think the private voting feature was removed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 1 year ago Indeed, I raised to Rimu to review that page permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 1 year ago Indeed, I raised to Rimu to review that page permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I don't like the fact that users receive a banner next to their name if they get downvoted a lot. This makes other people judge negatively the comment even before reading it. I think it also encourages people to keep downvoting and discourages to upvote (as what happens with mass down votes of a comment on Reddit just for the sake of doing so). Edit: sorry for my English, it's not my native language + I just woke up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)