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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) Well then you are just revealing your own ignorance to the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Enjoy your large blocks of cheap Cheddar and Colby jack, I do miss real cheese though. There's a reason for less cheese variety/quality in the us, milk must be pasteurized for cheese, which limits the cheeses available. Non pasteurized cheeses are safe (unlike non pasteurized milk consumption) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you can only find Cheddar and Colby Jack (which are real cheeses) then you're doing a very bad job shopping for groceries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) Meijer has an better cheese section with a few international cheeses and cheaper American counterparts, the American counterparts absolutely suck. The main "cheese" area is just blocks of cheeses like those, and grated cheeses with extra cellulose. American Cheddar sucks compared to UK Cheddar, don't even taste like the same cheese. And Colby jack is OK. There's also the issue that American cheese culture didn't got a chance to mature before corporations took over and started making a handful of mass produced cheap products. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) There's a lot more than one "American Cheddar", it's a big damn country with several distinct dairy regions. (Wisconsin, California, New York, and Vermont being significant but not exhaustive) And the cheese culture is just a fork of the various European colonizers/immigrants that brought cattle over, combining old techniques with new resources. Cream cheese, Humboldt Fog, and Cougar Gold are some highlights of American-developed-and-produced cheeses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Question, I lived in various European countries and the US, that's why I making said comparison. Did you spent significant time outside of the States? Because listing some highly specific cheeses that aren't available in any of my local distributors doesn't count. In Europe, in any town, from large cities to tiny villages, there's a shit ton of cheeses, from national cheeses to imported cheeses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) This isn't about what's available in Europe (also, hyperbole makes a terrible argument. I can just point to something like Reykhólar) You're specifically complaining about cheese availability in the United States and I think you're way more invested in hating the country than actually trying to fix your problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's all relative, by European standards, the US has terrible cheese culture. There's some, but its mostly just corporate slop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) There are many small farm, local cheeses in my area. Arethusa is a famous, award winning cheese maker in my state. You pay a lot for it, but many farmer's markets and rural areas have cheese makers. Obviously if you buy national cheese brands, they will suck. But that doesn't mean with a little effort you can't find good cheese made locally to you with higher quality care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can y'all stop comparing your American experience with the theoretical concept of no cheese? The comparisons os between two cheese cultures, not American V no cheese. So many replies are about "I can get cheese here". It's not even the answer to the topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you're crying you can't get Euro cheese in the states? And that's it? What's the point in arguing about that. Maybe have someone ship you some. We're just offering you options. If none of it is good enough, get it from Europe then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm talking to idiots. I'm comparing 2 things. And you are only aware of the existence of one of those things, and you are defending it blindly, against what? You have no fucking clue. God Americans are so entitled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Any american Bleu that approaches Roquefort in your opinion? Any american bleu that is great? @Soggy@lemmy.world Do you have an opinion? (I have no dog in this fight but I really like cheese and y'all know enough to fight about it.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm the wrong guy to ask for that, sorry. Blue cheeses aren't something I reach for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) The main "cheese" area is just blocks of cheeses like those, and grated cheeses with extra cellulose. Nah, I stand with the other guy, I think you just suck at shopping. This doesn't describe literally any non-budget grocery store that I've been to in the past decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's the fucking point, in Europe you will have to go out of your way to find shitty blocks of cheese. While in the US you have to go out of your way to find decent cheese. And if you love outside of a city? Practically impossible unless you drive a couple hours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like you can't read, either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I suck at typing on my phone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago If this is the only cheeese you’re finding, are your unsure you’re not looking at a convenience store? We’ve never lacked for choice of cheeses, even if the biggest quantities are the plainest choices permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Enjoy your large blocks of cheap Cheddar and Colby jack, I do miss real cheese though. There's a reason for less cheese variety/quality in the us, milk must be pasteurized for cheese, which limits the cheeses available. Non pasteurized cheeses are safe (unlike non pasteurized milk consumption) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you can only find Cheddar and Colby Jack (which are real cheeses) then you're doing a very bad job shopping for groceries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) Meijer has an better cheese section with a few international cheeses and cheaper American counterparts, the American counterparts absolutely suck. The main "cheese" area is just blocks of cheeses like those, and grated cheeses with extra cellulose. American Cheddar sucks compared to UK Cheddar, don't even taste like the same cheese. And Colby jack is OK. There's also the issue that American cheese culture didn't got a chance to mature before corporations took over and started making a handful of mass produced cheap products. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) There's a lot more than one "American Cheddar", it's a big damn country with several distinct dairy regions. (Wisconsin, California, New York, and Vermont being significant but not exhaustive) And the cheese culture is just a fork of the various European colonizers/immigrants that brought cattle over, combining old techniques with new resources. Cream cheese, Humboldt Fog, and Cougar Gold are some highlights of American-developed-and-produced cheeses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Question, I lived in various European countries and the US, that's why I making said comparison. Did you spent significant time outside of the States? Because listing some highly specific cheeses that aren't available in any of my local distributors doesn't count. In Europe, in any town, from large cities to tiny villages, there's a shit ton of cheeses, from national cheeses to imported cheeses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) This isn't about what's available in Europe (also, hyperbole makes a terrible argument. I can just point to something like Reykhólar) You're specifically complaining about cheese availability in the United States and I think you're way more invested in hating the country than actually trying to fix your problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's all relative, by European standards, the US has terrible cheese culture. There's some, but its mostly just corporate slop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) There are many small farm, local cheeses in my area. Arethusa is a famous, award winning cheese maker in my state. You pay a lot for it, but many farmer's markets and rural areas have cheese makers. Obviously if you buy national cheese brands, they will suck. But that doesn't mean with a little effort you can't find good cheese made locally to you with higher quality care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can y'all stop comparing your American experience with the theoretical concept of no cheese? The comparisons os between two cheese cultures, not American V no cheese. So many replies are about "I can get cheese here". It's not even the answer to the topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you're crying you can't get Euro cheese in the states? And that's it? What's the point in arguing about that. Maybe have someone ship you some. We're just offering you options. If none of it is good enough, get it from Europe then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm talking to idiots. I'm comparing 2 things. And you are only aware of the existence of one of those things, and you are defending it blindly, against what? You have no fucking clue. God Americans are so entitled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Any american Bleu that approaches Roquefort in your opinion? Any american bleu that is great? @Soggy@lemmy.world Do you have an opinion? (I have no dog in this fight but I really like cheese and y'all know enough to fight about it.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm the wrong guy to ask for that, sorry. Blue cheeses aren't something I reach for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) The main "cheese" area is just blocks of cheeses like those, and grated cheeses with extra cellulose. Nah, I stand with the other guy, I think you just suck at shopping. This doesn't describe literally any non-budget grocery store that I've been to in the past decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's the fucking point, in Europe you will have to go out of your way to find shitty blocks of cheese. While in the US you have to go out of your way to find decent cheese. And if you love outside of a city? Practically impossible unless you drive a couple hours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like you can't read, either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I suck at typing on my phone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago If this is the only cheeese you’re finding, are your unsure you’re not looking at a convenience store? We’ve never lacked for choice of cheeses, even if the biggest quantities are the plainest choices permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) If you can only find Cheddar and Colby Jack (which are real cheeses) then you're doing a very bad job shopping for groceries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) Meijer has an better cheese section with a few international cheeses and cheaper American counterparts, the American counterparts absolutely suck. The main "cheese" area is just blocks of cheeses like those, and grated cheeses with extra cellulose. American Cheddar sucks compared to UK Cheddar, don't even taste like the same cheese. And Colby jack is OK. There's also the issue that American cheese culture didn't got a chance to mature before corporations took over and started making a handful of mass produced cheap products. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) There's a lot more than one "American Cheddar", it's a big damn country with several distinct dairy regions. (Wisconsin, California, New York, and Vermont being significant but not exhaustive) And the cheese culture is just a fork of the various European colonizers/immigrants that brought cattle over, combining old techniques with new resources. Cream cheese, Humboldt Fog, and Cougar Gold are some highlights of American-developed-and-produced cheeses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Question, I lived in various European countries and the US, that's why I making said comparison. Did you spent significant time outside of the States? Because listing some highly specific cheeses that aren't available in any of my local distributors doesn't count. In Europe, in any town, from large cities to tiny villages, there's a shit ton of cheeses, from national cheeses to imported cheeses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) This isn't about what's available in Europe (also, hyperbole makes a terrible argument. I can just point to something like Reykhólar) You're specifically complaining about cheese availability in the United States and I think you're way more invested in hating the country than actually trying to fix your problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's all relative, by European standards, the US has terrible cheese culture. There's some, but its mostly just corporate slop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) There are many small farm, local cheeses in my area. Arethusa is a famous, award winning cheese maker in my state. You pay a lot for it, but many farmer's markets and rural areas have cheese makers. Obviously if you buy national cheese brands, they will suck. But that doesn't mean with a little effort you can't find good cheese made locally to you with higher quality care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can y'all stop comparing your American experience with the theoretical concept of no cheese? The comparisons os between two cheese cultures, not American V no cheese. So many replies are about "I can get cheese here". It's not even the answer to the topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you're crying you can't get Euro cheese in the states? And that's it? What's the point in arguing about that. Maybe have someone ship you some. We're just offering you options. If none of it is good enough, get it from Europe then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm talking to idiots. I'm comparing 2 things. And you are only aware of the existence of one of those things, and you are defending it blindly, against what? You have no fucking clue. God Americans are so entitled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Any american Bleu that approaches Roquefort in your opinion? Any american bleu that is great? @Soggy@lemmy.world Do you have an opinion? (I have no dog in this fight but I really like cheese and y'all know enough to fight about it.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm the wrong guy to ask for that, sorry. Blue cheeses aren't something I reach for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) The main "cheese" area is just blocks of cheeses like those, and grated cheeses with extra cellulose. Nah, I stand with the other guy, I think you just suck at shopping. This doesn't describe literally any non-budget grocery store that I've been to in the past decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's the fucking point, in Europe you will have to go out of your way to find shitty blocks of cheese. While in the US you have to go out of your way to find decent cheese. And if you love outside of a city? Practically impossible unless you drive a couple hours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like you can't read, either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I suck at typing on my phone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago If this is the only cheeese you’re finding, are your unsure you’re not looking at a convenience store? We’ve never lacked for choice of cheeses, even if the biggest quantities are the plainest choices permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children) Meijer has an better cheese section with a few international cheeses and cheaper American counterparts, the American counterparts absolutely suck. The main "cheese" area is just blocks of cheeses like those, and grated cheeses with extra cellulose. American Cheddar sucks compared to UK Cheddar, don't even taste like the same cheese. And Colby jack is OK. There's also the issue that American cheese culture didn't got a chance to mature before corporations took over and started making a handful of mass produced cheap products. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) There's a lot more than one "American Cheddar", it's a big damn country with several distinct dairy regions. (Wisconsin, California, New York, and Vermont being significant but not exhaustive) And the cheese culture is just a fork of the various European colonizers/immigrants that brought cattle over, combining old techniques with new resources. Cream cheese, Humboldt Fog, and Cougar Gold are some highlights of American-developed-and-produced cheeses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Question, I lived in various European countries and the US, that's why I making said comparison. Did you spent significant time outside of the States? Because listing some highly specific cheeses that aren't available in any of my local distributors doesn't count. In Europe, in any town, from large cities to tiny villages, there's a shit ton of cheeses, from national cheeses to imported cheeses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) This isn't about what's available in Europe (also, hyperbole makes a terrible argument. I can just point to something like Reykhólar) You're specifically complaining about cheese availability in the United States and I think you're way more invested in hating the country than actually trying to fix your problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's all relative, by European standards, the US has terrible cheese culture. There's some, but its mostly just corporate slop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) There are many small farm, local cheeses in my area. Arethusa is a famous, award winning cheese maker in my state. You pay a lot for it, but many farmer's markets and rural areas have cheese makers. Obviously if you buy national cheese brands, they will suck. But that doesn't mean with a little effort you can't find good cheese made locally to you with higher quality care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can y'all stop comparing your American experience with the theoretical concept of no cheese? The comparisons os between two cheese cultures, not American V no cheese. So many replies are about "I can get cheese here". It's not even the answer to the topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you're crying you can't get Euro cheese in the states? And that's it? What's the point in arguing about that. Maybe have someone ship you some. We're just offering you options. If none of it is good enough, get it from Europe then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm talking to idiots. I'm comparing 2 things. And you are only aware of the existence of one of those things, and you are defending it blindly, against what? You have no fucking clue. God Americans are so entitled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Any american Bleu that approaches Roquefort in your opinion? Any american bleu that is great? @Soggy@lemmy.world Do you have an opinion? (I have no dog in this fight but I really like cheese and y'all know enough to fight about it.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm the wrong guy to ask for that, sorry. Blue cheeses aren't something I reach for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) The main "cheese" area is just blocks of cheeses like those, and grated cheeses with extra cellulose. Nah, I stand with the other guy, I think you just suck at shopping. This doesn't describe literally any non-budget grocery store that I've been to in the past decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's the fucking point, in Europe you will have to go out of your way to find shitty blocks of cheese. While in the US you have to go out of your way to find decent cheese. And if you love outside of a city? Practically impossible unless you drive a couple hours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like you can't read, either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I suck at typing on my phone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago If this is the only cheeese you’re finding, are your unsure you’re not looking at a convenience store? We’ve never lacked for choice of cheeses, even if the biggest quantities are the plainest choices permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) There's a lot more than one "American Cheddar", it's a big damn country with several distinct dairy regions. (Wisconsin, California, New York, and Vermont being significant but not exhaustive) And the cheese culture is just a fork of the various European colonizers/immigrants that brought cattle over, combining old techniques with new resources. Cream cheese, Humboldt Fog, and Cougar Gold are some highlights of American-developed-and-produced cheeses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Question, I lived in various European countries and the US, that's why I making said comparison. Did you spent significant time outside of the States? Because listing some highly specific cheeses that aren't available in any of my local distributors doesn't count. In Europe, in any town, from large cities to tiny villages, there's a shit ton of cheeses, from national cheeses to imported cheeses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) This isn't about what's available in Europe (also, hyperbole makes a terrible argument. I can just point to something like Reykhólar) You're specifically complaining about cheese availability in the United States and I think you're way more invested in hating the country than actually trying to fix your problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's all relative, by European standards, the US has terrible cheese culture. There's some, but its mostly just corporate slop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) There are many small farm, local cheeses in my area. Arethusa is a famous, award winning cheese maker in my state. You pay a lot for it, but many farmer's markets and rural areas have cheese makers. Obviously if you buy national cheese brands, they will suck. But that doesn't mean with a little effort you can't find good cheese made locally to you with higher quality care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can y'all stop comparing your American experience with the theoretical concept of no cheese? The comparisons os between two cheese cultures, not American V no cheese. So many replies are about "I can get cheese here". It's not even the answer to the topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you're crying you can't get Euro cheese in the states? And that's it? What's the point in arguing about that. Maybe have someone ship you some. We're just offering you options. If none of it is good enough, get it from Europe then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm talking to idiots. I'm comparing 2 things. And you are only aware of the existence of one of those things, and you are defending it blindly, against what? You have no fucking clue. God Americans are so entitled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Any american Bleu that approaches Roquefort in your opinion? Any american bleu that is great? @Soggy@lemmy.world Do you have an opinion? (I have no dog in this fight but I really like cheese and y'all know enough to fight about it.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm the wrong guy to ask for that, sorry. Blue cheeses aren't something I reach for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Question, I lived in various European countries and the US, that's why I making said comparison. Did you spent significant time outside of the States? Because listing some highly specific cheeses that aren't available in any of my local distributors doesn't count. In Europe, in any town, from large cities to tiny villages, there's a shit ton of cheeses, from national cheeses to imported cheeses. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) This isn't about what's available in Europe (also, hyperbole makes a terrible argument. I can just point to something like Reykhólar) You're specifically complaining about cheese availability in the United States and I think you're way more invested in hating the country than actually trying to fix your problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's all relative, by European standards, the US has terrible cheese culture. There's some, but its mostly just corporate slop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) There are many small farm, local cheeses in my area. Arethusa is a famous, award winning cheese maker in my state. You pay a lot for it, but many farmer's markets and rural areas have cheese makers. Obviously if you buy national cheese brands, they will suck. But that doesn't mean with a little effort you can't find good cheese made locally to you with higher quality care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can y'all stop comparing your American experience with the theoretical concept of no cheese? The comparisons os between two cheese cultures, not American V no cheese. So many replies are about "I can get cheese here". It's not even the answer to the topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you're crying you can't get Euro cheese in the states? And that's it? What's the point in arguing about that. Maybe have someone ship you some. We're just offering you options. If none of it is good enough, get it from Europe then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm talking to idiots. I'm comparing 2 things. And you are only aware of the existence of one of those things, and you are defending it blindly, against what? You have no fucking clue. God Americans are so entitled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Any american Bleu that approaches Roquefort in your opinion? Any american bleu that is great? @Soggy@lemmy.world Do you have an opinion? (I have no dog in this fight but I really like cheese and y'all know enough to fight about it.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm the wrong guy to ask for that, sorry. Blue cheeses aren't something I reach for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) This isn't about what's available in Europe (also, hyperbole makes a terrible argument. I can just point to something like Reykhólar) You're specifically complaining about cheese availability in the United States and I think you're way more invested in hating the country than actually trying to fix your problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's all relative, by European standards, the US has terrible cheese culture. There's some, but its mostly just corporate slop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) There are many small farm, local cheeses in my area. Arethusa is a famous, award winning cheese maker in my state. You pay a lot for it, but many farmer's markets and rural areas have cheese makers. Obviously if you buy national cheese brands, they will suck. But that doesn't mean with a little effort you can't find good cheese made locally to you with higher quality care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can y'all stop comparing your American experience with the theoretical concept of no cheese? The comparisons os between two cheese cultures, not American V no cheese. So many replies are about "I can get cheese here". It's not even the answer to the topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you're crying you can't get Euro cheese in the states? And that's it? What's the point in arguing about that. Maybe have someone ship you some. We're just offering you options. If none of it is good enough, get it from Europe then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm talking to idiots. I'm comparing 2 things. And you are only aware of the existence of one of those things, and you are defending it blindly, against what? You have no fucking clue. God Americans are so entitled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Any american Bleu that approaches Roquefort in your opinion? Any american bleu that is great? @Soggy@lemmy.world Do you have an opinion? (I have no dog in this fight but I really like cheese and y'all know enough to fight about it.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm the wrong guy to ask for that, sorry. Blue cheeses aren't something I reach for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) It's all relative, by European standards, the US has terrible cheese culture. There's some, but its mostly just corporate slop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) There are many small farm, local cheeses in my area. Arethusa is a famous, award winning cheese maker in my state. You pay a lot for it, but many farmer's markets and rural areas have cheese makers. Obviously if you buy national cheese brands, they will suck. But that doesn't mean with a little effort you can't find good cheese made locally to you with higher quality care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can y'all stop comparing your American experience with the theoretical concept of no cheese? The comparisons os between two cheese cultures, not American V no cheese. So many replies are about "I can get cheese here". It's not even the answer to the topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you're crying you can't get Euro cheese in the states? And that's it? What's the point in arguing about that. Maybe have someone ship you some. We're just offering you options. If none of it is good enough, get it from Europe then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm talking to idiots. I'm comparing 2 things. And you are only aware of the existence of one of those things, and you are defending it blindly, against what? You have no fucking clue. God Americans are so entitled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Any american Bleu that approaches Roquefort in your opinion? Any american bleu that is great? @Soggy@lemmy.world Do you have an opinion? (I have no dog in this fight but I really like cheese and y'all know enough to fight about it.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm the wrong guy to ask for that, sorry. Blue cheeses aren't something I reach for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) There are many small farm, local cheeses in my area. Arethusa is a famous, award winning cheese maker in my state. You pay a lot for it, but many farmer's markets and rural areas have cheese makers. Obviously if you buy national cheese brands, they will suck. But that doesn't mean with a little effort you can't find good cheese made locally to you with higher quality care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can y'all stop comparing your American experience with the theoretical concept of no cheese? The comparisons os between two cheese cultures, not American V no cheese. So many replies are about "I can get cheese here". It's not even the answer to the topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you're crying you can't get Euro cheese in the states? And that's it? What's the point in arguing about that. Maybe have someone ship you some. We're just offering you options. If none of it is good enough, get it from Europe then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm talking to idiots. I'm comparing 2 things. And you are only aware of the existence of one of those things, and you are defending it blindly, against what? You have no fucking clue. God Americans are so entitled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Can y'all stop comparing your American experience with the theoretical concept of no cheese? The comparisons os between two cheese cultures, not American V no cheese. So many replies are about "I can get cheese here". It's not even the answer to the topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you're crying you can't get Euro cheese in the states? And that's it? What's the point in arguing about that. Maybe have someone ship you some. We're just offering you options. If none of it is good enough, get it from Europe then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm talking to idiots. I'm comparing 2 things. And you are only aware of the existence of one of those things, and you are defending it blindly, against what? You have no fucking clue. God Americans are so entitled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) So you're crying you can't get Euro cheese in the states? And that's it? What's the point in arguing about that. Maybe have someone ship you some. We're just offering you options. If none of it is good enough, get it from Europe then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm talking to idiots. I'm comparing 2 things. And you are only aware of the existence of one of those things, and you are defending it blindly, against what? You have no fucking clue. God Americans are so entitled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm talking to idiots. I'm comparing 2 things. And you are only aware of the existence of one of those things, and you are defending it blindly, against what? You have no fucking clue. God Americans are so entitled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I don't even know what I'm defending, or what you're talking about. Have a cheesy day! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) Any american Bleu that approaches Roquefort in your opinion? Any american bleu that is great? @Soggy@lemmy.world Do you have an opinion? (I have no dog in this fight but I really like cheese and y'all know enough to fight about it.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm the wrong guy to ask for that, sorry. Blue cheeses aren't something I reach for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm the wrong guy to ask for that, sorry. Blue cheeses aren't something I reach for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) The main "cheese" area is just blocks of cheeses like those, and grated cheeses with extra cellulose. Nah, I stand with the other guy, I think you just suck at shopping. This doesn't describe literally any non-budget grocery store that I've been to in the past decade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's the fucking point, in Europe you will have to go out of your way to find shitty blocks of cheese. While in the US you have to go out of your way to find decent cheese. And if you love outside of a city? Practically impossible unless you drive a couple hours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like you can't read, either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I suck at typing on my phone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's the fucking point, in Europe you will have to go out of your way to find shitty blocks of cheese. While in the US you have to go out of your way to find decent cheese. And if you love outside of a city? Practically impossible unless you drive a couple hours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like you can't read, either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I suck at typing on my phone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's like you can't read, either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I suck at typing on my phone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I suck at typing on my phone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago If this is the only cheeese you’re finding, are your unsure you’re not looking at a convenience store? We’ve never lacked for choice of cheeses, even if the biggest quantities are the plainest choices permalink fedilink source parent