Tumblr post by nickyflowers from Jun 16, 2024:

it would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. the advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though and their definitions of family and friendly are absolutely fucked. but since they're in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. tiktokers say things like "unalive" and "seggs" because they know death and sex are too adult for online. online is for idiot babies only now because they're easier to market to.

oh im sorry you're a trans adult? super ban. you are super banned for life. you have upset Visa's feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. how could you do this to Google Ads?
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[–] 55 points 1 year ago (9 children)

There was a push... way back in the 90s, to implement a regulation on the internet in which "adult" material would register itself under the ".xxx" domain. And then you could do whatever horny shit you wanted under that heading, in the same way you could drop F-bombs and racial slurs on Satellite Radio or Cable TV. If someone didn't want their kids to watch certain material, they could very easily block the content by censoring everything from the ".xxx" domain. And ISPs could even offer "child-friendly" connections by automatically refusing to serve that content to opt-out customers.

The plan died in committee, because conservative politicians considered it unfriendly to businesses.

Similar pitches - broadcast frequencies that could be blocked with special chips in TVs, registries that businesses could add themselves to in order to let systems auto-filter there material, HTML metadata tags, FCC rules updates, state funded industry managed ratings agencies - all got the axe under a political class that insisted it was too hostile to the interests focused on making money.

And so now we don't have any kind of tagging or sorting or filtering option native to content. It's all just a mass of generic data. Which is good if you want to engage in traffic quietly under the radar. But awful if you want to be an above board commercial enterprise with normal customers.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Those ideas don't really solve this problem though. Advertisers and payment processors would just not service these "adult content" sites. So all the popular sites wouldn't allow adult content.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Several adult friendly platforms have come and gone. Many of them very profitable and self sustaining. They all eventually get screwed by inability to process payments.

    And when people try to create their own payment methods not subject to arbitrary morality rules, the full weight of the existing banking system comes down hard and strangles them in the cradle.

    We could absolutely have safe, profitable, self sustaining adult friendly spaces, but the powers that be don't want that to exist and work hard to undermine that from every possible angle.

    It's really no different than all those efforts to ban local fiber ISP coops or how abortion clinics get shut down by arbitrary full hospital regulations because they couldn't ban them legally.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    somebody would fill that gap. there's a market there, so somebody will see the opportunity to make money when there's no competition

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Somebody, sure. There's advertisers on porn sites. Just not the same ones on all the other sites, and they don't pay the same. It's a different market. Any company for whom all-ages content is a significant part of their product is gonna want the non-porn advertisers

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    It is worth noting that the .xxx domain does still exist.

    Its... a lot more like the late 90s / early 00s web.

    https://icannwiki.org/.xxx

    www.Search.xxx

    I... am uncertain as to whether or not payment processors ....care at all, or a lot about anything going on here...

    But uh yeah, people could just... start using this domain more and try to force a re-evaluation of internet/society norms.

    The internet is a lot less of a 'US sets all the rules' thing these days.

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