▲ 393 ▼ AI coders think they’re 20% faster — but they’re actually 19% slower (pivot-to-ai.com) submitted 1 year ago by dgerard@awful.systems [M] to c/techtakes@awful.systems 97 comments fedilink hide all child comments podcast version video version
[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Hey tech bro! how much money did you loose on NFTs? 😂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Xerxos@lemmy.ml -8 points 1 year ago (3 children) It may be hard to believe but I am not a 'tech bro'. Never traded crypto or NFTs. My workplace doesn't even allow me to use any LLMs. As a software developer that's a bit limiting but I don't mind. But in my own time I have dabbled with AI and 'vibe coding' to see what the fuss is all about. Is it the co-programmer AI bros promise to the masses? No, or at least not currently. But useful non the less if you know what you do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) aww, is the widdle deweloper mad it can’t go pollutin’ the codebase it has to work with others on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago (3 children) What's with the name calling? Was any of my arguments wrong or am I just supposed to switch off my brain follow the group-think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 17 points 1 year ago it doesn’t appear you’re tall enough for this ride permalink fedilink source parent [–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago Bwahahahah you are in the group that is switching your brains off in favour of automated group-thinking 😂 permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago oh fuck off permalink fedilink source parent [–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) “Useful if you know how to use it” does not sound worth destroying the environment over. https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117 https://www.forbes.com/sites/cindygordon/2024/02/25/ai-is-accelerating-the-loss-of-our-scarcest-natural-resource-water/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] diz@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago I suspect that the kind of people who would "know how to use it" don't use it right now since it has not yet reached "useful if you know how to use it" status. Software work is dominated by the fat tail distribution of time it takes to figure out and fix a bug. Not by typing code. LLMs, much like any other form of cutting and pasting code without having any clue what it does, gives that distribution a longer, fatter tail, hence its detrimental effect on productivity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] swlabr@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago It may be hard to believe but I am not a ‘tech bro’ “If you look closely you might notice I am wearing a fedora, indicating that I am in fact a technology fraternatarian, you peasant.” permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Xerxos@lemmy.ml -8 points 1 year ago (3 children) It may be hard to believe but I am not a 'tech bro'. Never traded crypto or NFTs. My workplace doesn't even allow me to use any LLMs. As a software developer that's a bit limiting but I don't mind. But in my own time I have dabbled with AI and 'vibe coding' to see what the fuss is all about. Is it the co-programmer AI bros promise to the masses? No, or at least not currently. But useful non the less if you know what you do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) aww, is the widdle deweloper mad it can’t go pollutin’ the codebase it has to work with others on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago (3 children) What's with the name calling? Was any of my arguments wrong or am I just supposed to switch off my brain follow the group-think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 17 points 1 year ago it doesn’t appear you’re tall enough for this ride permalink fedilink source parent [–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago Bwahahahah you are in the group that is switching your brains off in favour of automated group-thinking 😂 permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago oh fuck off permalink fedilink source parent [–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) “Useful if you know how to use it” does not sound worth destroying the environment over. https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117 https://www.forbes.com/sites/cindygordon/2024/02/25/ai-is-accelerating-the-loss-of-our-scarcest-natural-resource-water/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] diz@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago I suspect that the kind of people who would "know how to use it" don't use it right now since it has not yet reached "useful if you know how to use it" status. Software work is dominated by the fat tail distribution of time it takes to figure out and fix a bug. Not by typing code. LLMs, much like any other form of cutting and pasting code without having any clue what it does, gives that distribution a longer, fatter tail, hence its detrimental effect on productivity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] swlabr@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago It may be hard to believe but I am not a ‘tech bro’ “If you look closely you might notice I am wearing a fedora, indicating that I am in fact a technology fraternatarian, you peasant.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) aww, is the widdle deweloper mad it can’t go pollutin’ the codebase it has to work with others on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago (3 children) What's with the name calling? Was any of my arguments wrong or am I just supposed to switch off my brain follow the group-think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 17 points 1 year ago it doesn’t appear you’re tall enough for this ride permalink fedilink source parent [–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago Bwahahahah you are in the group that is switching your brains off in favour of automated group-thinking 😂 permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago oh fuck off permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago (3 children) What's with the name calling? Was any of my arguments wrong or am I just supposed to switch off my brain follow the group-think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 17 points 1 year ago it doesn’t appear you’re tall enough for this ride permalink fedilink source parent [–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago Bwahahahah you are in the group that is switching your brains off in favour of automated group-thinking 😂 permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago oh fuck off permalink fedilink source parent
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 17 points 1 year ago it doesn’t appear you’re tall enough for this ride permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago Bwahahahah you are in the group that is switching your brains off in favour of automated group-thinking 😂 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) “Useful if you know how to use it” does not sound worth destroying the environment over. https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117 https://www.forbes.com/sites/cindygordon/2024/02/25/ai-is-accelerating-the-loss-of-our-scarcest-natural-resource-water/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] diz@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago I suspect that the kind of people who would "know how to use it" don't use it right now since it has not yet reached "useful if you know how to use it" status. Software work is dominated by the fat tail distribution of time it takes to figure out and fix a bug. Not by typing code. LLMs, much like any other form of cutting and pasting code without having any clue what it does, gives that distribution a longer, fatter tail, hence its detrimental effect on productivity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] diz@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago I suspect that the kind of people who would "know how to use it" don't use it right now since it has not yet reached "useful if you know how to use it" status. Software work is dominated by the fat tail distribution of time it takes to figure out and fix a bug. Not by typing code. LLMs, much like any other form of cutting and pasting code without having any clue what it does, gives that distribution a longer, fatter tail, hence its detrimental effect on productivity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] swlabr@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago It may be hard to believe but I am not a ‘tech bro’ “If you look closely you might notice I am wearing a fedora, indicating that I am in fact a technology fraternatarian, you peasant.” permalink fedilink source parent