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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

The conversation should not be about eat less move more, it should be about the [Paper] The Carbohydrate-Insulin Model of Obesity - Beyond “Calories In, Calories Out” - 2018

TLDR: Carbohydrates drive insulin, insulin drives obesity. This is far more clinically relevant to obese patients then the current form of CICO shaming (if the current advice doesn't work for you, its a moral failing on your part)

Carbohydrates/sugars are very addictive, breaking the habits does take a holistic approach, but education is a good first step.

We now understand that obesity is multifactorial. Genetics, childhood experiences, cultural norms, economic disadvantage, psychological health, mental illness and even the kind of job you have all play a role.

These are associations not causation, it's being kind of used as a excuse for why nobody has done anything yet.

This “obesogenic environment” refers to the world we live in. Its one where high-calorie, low-nutrient foods are cheap and everywhere, and where physical activity has been engineered out of everyday life, from car-centric cities to screen-dominated leisure time.

Not a mention of carbohydrates?

higher rates of obesity and deprivation

Overfed and undernourished - This is a problem with processed foods to be sure, but people are eating to satisfy their carbohydrate addictions and not whole food nutritional needs.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I'm disappointed Jet. I was eagerly awaiting your input on this and rather than address what's being said in the article, you're just pushing your preexisting agenda.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Did I miss something in the article? Some underlying unifying thesis? I'm looking at it again, and its not saying much specific.

Framing it as a personal failure not only ignores decades of evidence – it actively harms the very people who need support.

I thought I was agreeing with this.

pushing your preexisting agenda.

Yeah, when I know the solution to obesity and addiction, and I see people suffering from those exact things, I'm going to my best to ensure people are informed of their options and the underlying mechanisms. My life would have been very different if I had know this at a younger age.

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