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Modder behind the 'Swiss army knife of PC gaming' deletes their 20 year-old Steam account with anti-Valve manifesto: 'By the end of my bitter dealings with Valve… there was zero hope' (www.pcgamer.com)
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[–] 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Can you name any other company that supports Windows 98 in 2025?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)

    Literally any game sold that didn't include always checking in DRM through a particular desktop client. i.e. virtually every single PC game not sold through steam.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    That's not what I asked. You said you wanted Valve to hire people to support Windows 98. What company still supports Windows 98 like that?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Lots. Do you know how much corporate software is still of that vintage?

    Literally like half of AutoCAD's products still use the graphics and windowing APIs from that era as one example. The WinForms API are clunky by modern standards but also relatively trivial for a programmer to pick up and code with.

    I mean, there is still an industry of Cobol engineers maintaining mainframe code for banks from the 80s.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I am aware that some corporate infrastructure is hopelessly tangled up in legacy systems. But we are talking about consumer support here, which I know you know is very different.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    No, it's not. Autodesk sells that software to consumers and corporations literally every single day.

    Try and code a WinForms app, follow any tutorial you can, and notice that it's very possible and not that onerous.

    People these days just accept the shit tech companies feed them because they're using to eating shit from them.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I mean, there is still an industry of Cobol engineers maintaining mainframe code for banks from the 80s.

    my gramps, that's not the beacon of good business practice you think it is 🤣

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The question at hand is whether or not there are enough engineers to feasibly support Windows 98. Try and work on your reading comprehension.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    No. The question at hand is whether you expect any company, or any person, to indefinitely fix and maintain legacy systems. And yes, your argument is indefinite support because you want the purchasing machine to be granted use of the software in perpetuity, you want it to never lose access to the software. You provided no deadline by which anyone is allowed to stop fixing things that broke. And yes, things break naturally as a function of time.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    And yes, things break naturally as a function of time.

    Why don't you go ahead and explain the exact mechanism that causes software to change and would cause a computer to interpret it differently over time, without a human intervening and updating it to break it.

    Don't worry, we'll wait.

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