▲ 76 ▼ Modder behind the 'Swiss army knife of PC gaming' deletes their 20 year-old Steam account with anti-Valve manifesto: 'By the end of my bitter dealings with Valve… there was zero hope' (www.pcgamer.com) submitted 1 year ago by ryujin470@fedia.io to c/gaming@beehaw.org 80 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 25 points 1 year ago (1 child) Or just support GoG and buy the game from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) This seems like the wisest option for the long term. I just recently decided that any games that are available on both and don't make use of Steam-exclusive features I will buy from GOG instead. Up until that point I had been buying games on Steam by default when they had sales, but GOG has equivalent sales at the same time. Unless the game takes advantage of some Steam-exclusive feature, there seems to be no good reason to buy it from Steam instead of from GOG. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Talaraine@fedia.io 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) I like Steam, but they are catering to a certain audience that doesn't care as much about game preservation. Now that GoG is doing the opposite... it is the optimal place to buy those old games you want to keep forever. Seems simple to me. It's healthy to have two different markets anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I just move the games folder out of steam. I agree with you though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Talaraine@fedia.io 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'd love a tutorial on this on Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago The games folders are the same on linux. Theyre just in home>deck>steam instead of c>programs>steam, or whatever the paths are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago I agree with you, but I started thinking about this not even from a game preservation perspective but from a DRM perspective. This article was a timely reminder that if I buy any media with DRM, no matter how purportedly lenient and user-friendly it is, the DRM controls when and where I'm allowed to use that media in perpetuity unless I break the DRM, which I understand is illegal in some jurisdictions. Imagine having to jump through hoops or even break the law just to keep using the media that you "bought" with your hard-earned cash. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) I do the exact same, but I also buy multiplayer and VR games on Steam, because I run Linux, and GOG Galaxy isn't out on Linux (yet). I really don't want to faff about getting all of that working on each individual game. I bought Rain World and FTL on GOG, but Star Wars: Battlefront 2 on Steam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Talaraine@fedia.io 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You can run Heroic Launcher on Linux and it ties into GoG, didn't know if you knew. (I run Linux too! There's dozens of us xD) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I already use it, but thanks for recommending it. It's really great. Here on Lemmy, I think the number of Linux users is in the thousands, not dozens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago Here on Lemmy, I think the number of Linux users is in the thousands, not dozens. Can confirm permalink fedilink source parent [–] slauraure@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago Heck I just run GOG Galaxy in Proton to not have to patch everything manually. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Thanks for pointing this out about multiplayer and VR games. I had wondered about this exact thing, so I appreciate your confirming it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't really point much out. I only know that multiplayer games use either Steam or GOG Galaxy to log in and that there aren't many more OpenXR runtimes besides SteamVR on Linux (I know of WiVRn, but I had an Nvidia GPU and couldn't figure out how to compile the Vulkan extensions required). I find it tedious to manually set up save file synchronization for my GOG games, so I really can't be arsed to go so far when Steam just does it all for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Thanks again. I'm not doing VR yet, but plan to eventually. I can totally see where multiplayer could be an issue too, especially if friends own the games on Steam instead. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) This seems like the wisest option for the long term. I just recently decided that any games that are available on both and don't make use of Steam-exclusive features I will buy from GOG instead. Up until that point I had been buying games on Steam by default when they had sales, but GOG has equivalent sales at the same time. Unless the game takes advantage of some Steam-exclusive feature, there seems to be no good reason to buy it from Steam instead of from GOG. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Talaraine@fedia.io 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) I like Steam, but they are catering to a certain audience that doesn't care as much about game preservation. Now that GoG is doing the opposite... it is the optimal place to buy those old games you want to keep forever. Seems simple to me. It's healthy to have two different markets anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I just move the games folder out of steam. I agree with you though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Talaraine@fedia.io 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'd love a tutorial on this on Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago The games folders are the same on linux. Theyre just in home>deck>steam instead of c>programs>steam, or whatever the paths are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago I agree with you, but I started thinking about this not even from a game preservation perspective but from a DRM perspective. This article was a timely reminder that if I buy any media with DRM, no matter how purportedly lenient and user-friendly it is, the DRM controls when and where I'm allowed to use that media in perpetuity unless I break the DRM, which I understand is illegal in some jurisdictions. Imagine having to jump through hoops or even break the law just to keep using the media that you "bought" with your hard-earned cash. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) I do the exact same, but I also buy multiplayer and VR games on Steam, because I run Linux, and GOG Galaxy isn't out on Linux (yet). I really don't want to faff about getting all of that working on each individual game. I bought Rain World and FTL on GOG, but Star Wars: Battlefront 2 on Steam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Talaraine@fedia.io 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You can run Heroic Launcher on Linux and it ties into GoG, didn't know if you knew. (I run Linux too! There's dozens of us xD) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I already use it, but thanks for recommending it. It's really great. Here on Lemmy, I think the number of Linux users is in the thousands, not dozens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago Here on Lemmy, I think the number of Linux users is in the thousands, not dozens. Can confirm permalink fedilink source parent [–] slauraure@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago Heck I just run GOG Galaxy in Proton to not have to patch everything manually. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Thanks for pointing this out about multiplayer and VR games. I had wondered about this exact thing, so I appreciate your confirming it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't really point much out. I only know that multiplayer games use either Steam or GOG Galaxy to log in and that there aren't many more OpenXR runtimes besides SteamVR on Linux (I know of WiVRn, but I had an Nvidia GPU and couldn't figure out how to compile the Vulkan extensions required). I find it tedious to manually set up save file synchronization for my GOG games, so I really can't be arsed to go so far when Steam just does it all for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Thanks again. I'm not doing VR yet, but plan to eventually. I can totally see where multiplayer could be an issue too, especially if friends own the games on Steam instead. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) I like Steam, but they are catering to a certain audience that doesn't care as much about game preservation. Now that GoG is doing the opposite... it is the optimal place to buy those old games you want to keep forever. Seems simple to me. It's healthy to have two different markets anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I just move the games folder out of steam. I agree with you though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Talaraine@fedia.io 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'd love a tutorial on this on Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago The games folders are the same on linux. Theyre just in home>deck>steam instead of c>programs>steam, or whatever the paths are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago I agree with you, but I started thinking about this not even from a game preservation perspective but from a DRM perspective. This article was a timely reminder that if I buy any media with DRM, no matter how purportedly lenient and user-friendly it is, the DRM controls when and where I'm allowed to use that media in perpetuity unless I break the DRM, which I understand is illegal in some jurisdictions. Imagine having to jump through hoops or even break the law just to keep using the media that you "bought" with your hard-earned cash. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I just move the games folder out of steam. I agree with you though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Talaraine@fedia.io 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'd love a tutorial on this on Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago The games folders are the same on linux. Theyre just in home>deck>steam instead of c>programs>steam, or whatever the paths are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) I'd love a tutorial on this on Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago The games folders are the same on linux. Theyre just in home>deck>steam instead of c>programs>steam, or whatever the paths are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago The games folders are the same on linux. Theyre just in home>deck>steam instead of c>programs>steam, or whatever the paths are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago I agree with you, but I started thinking about this not even from a game preservation perspective but from a DRM perspective. This article was a timely reminder that if I buy any media with DRM, no matter how purportedly lenient and user-friendly it is, the DRM controls when and where I'm allowed to use that media in perpetuity unless I break the DRM, which I understand is illegal in some jurisdictions. Imagine having to jump through hoops or even break the law just to keep using the media that you "bought" with your hard-earned cash. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) I do the exact same, but I also buy multiplayer and VR games on Steam, because I run Linux, and GOG Galaxy isn't out on Linux (yet). I really don't want to faff about getting all of that working on each individual game. I bought Rain World and FTL on GOG, but Star Wars: Battlefront 2 on Steam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Talaraine@fedia.io 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You can run Heroic Launcher on Linux and it ties into GoG, didn't know if you knew. (I run Linux too! There's dozens of us xD) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I already use it, but thanks for recommending it. It's really great. Here on Lemmy, I think the number of Linux users is in the thousands, not dozens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago Here on Lemmy, I think the number of Linux users is in the thousands, not dozens. Can confirm permalink fedilink source parent [–] slauraure@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago Heck I just run GOG Galaxy in Proton to not have to patch everything manually. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Thanks for pointing this out about multiplayer and VR games. I had wondered about this exact thing, so I appreciate your confirming it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't really point much out. I only know that multiplayer games use either Steam or GOG Galaxy to log in and that there aren't many more OpenXR runtimes besides SteamVR on Linux (I know of WiVRn, but I had an Nvidia GPU and couldn't figure out how to compile the Vulkan extensions required). I find it tedious to manually set up save file synchronization for my GOG games, so I really can't be arsed to go so far when Steam just does it all for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Thanks again. I'm not doing VR yet, but plan to eventually. I can totally see where multiplayer could be an issue too, especially if friends own the games on Steam instead. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You can run Heroic Launcher on Linux and it ties into GoG, didn't know if you knew. (I run Linux too! There's dozens of us xD) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I already use it, but thanks for recommending it. It's really great. Here on Lemmy, I think the number of Linux users is in the thousands, not dozens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago Here on Lemmy, I think the number of Linux users is in the thousands, not dozens. Can confirm permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I already use it, but thanks for recommending it. It's really great. Here on Lemmy, I think the number of Linux users is in the thousands, not dozens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago Here on Lemmy, I think the number of Linux users is in the thousands, not dozens. Can confirm permalink fedilink source parent
[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago Here on Lemmy, I think the number of Linux users is in the thousands, not dozens. Can confirm permalink fedilink source parent
[–] slauraure@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago Heck I just run GOG Galaxy in Proton to not have to patch everything manually. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Thanks for pointing this out about multiplayer and VR games. I had wondered about this exact thing, so I appreciate your confirming it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't really point much out. I only know that multiplayer games use either Steam or GOG Galaxy to log in and that there aren't many more OpenXR runtimes besides SteamVR on Linux (I know of WiVRn, but I had an Nvidia GPU and couldn't figure out how to compile the Vulkan extensions required). I find it tedious to manually set up save file synchronization for my GOG games, so I really can't be arsed to go so far when Steam just does it all for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Thanks again. I'm not doing VR yet, but plan to eventually. I can totally see where multiplayer could be an issue too, especially if friends own the games on Steam instead. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I didn't really point much out. I only know that multiplayer games use either Steam or GOG Galaxy to log in and that there aren't many more OpenXR runtimes besides SteamVR on Linux (I know of WiVRn, but I had an Nvidia GPU and couldn't figure out how to compile the Vulkan extensions required). I find it tedious to manually set up save file synchronization for my GOG games, so I really can't be arsed to go so far when Steam just does it all for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Thanks again. I'm not doing VR yet, but plan to eventually. I can totally see where multiplayer could be an issue too, especially if friends own the games on Steam instead. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Thanks again. I'm not doing VR yet, but plan to eventually. I can totally see where multiplayer could be an issue too, especially if friends own the games on Steam instead. permalink fedilink source parent