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ETH Zurich and EPFL will release a large language model (LLM) developed on public infrastructure. Trained on the “Alps” supercomputer at the Swiss National Supercomputing Centre (CSCS), the new LLM marks a milestone in open-source AI and multilingual excellence.

  • In late summer 2025, a publicly developed large language model (LLM) will be released — co-created by researchers at EPFL, ETH Zurich, and the Swiss National Supercomputing Centre (CSCS).
  • This LLM will be fully open: This openness is designed to support broad adoption and foster innovation across science, society, and industry.
  • A defining feature of the model is its multilingual fluency in over 1,000 languages.
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[-] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago

I'm sure the community will find something to hate about this as well, since this isn't an article about an LLM failing at something.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Gigantic hater of all things LLM or "AI" here.

The only genuine contribution I can think of that LLMs have made to society is their translation capabilities. So even I can see how a fully open source model with "multilingual fluency in over 1,000 languages" could be potentially useful.

And even if it is all a scam, if this prevents people from sending money to China or the US as they are falling for the scam, I guess that's also a good thing.

Could I find something to hate about it? Oh yeah, most certainly! :)

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

i hear there are cool advances in medicine, engineering and such. i imagine techbros have an exponentially bigger budget, though.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Usually when I see this it's using other machine learning approaches than LLM, and the researchers behind it are usually very careful not to use the term AI, as they are fully aware that this is not what they are doing.

There's huge potential in machine learning, but LLMs are very little more than bullshit generators, and generative AI is theft producing soulless garbage. LLMs are widely employed because they look impressive, but for anything that requires substance machine learning methods that have been around for years tend to perform better.

If you can identify cancer in x-rays using machine learning that's awesome, but that's very seperate from the AI hype machine that is currently running wild.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Machine learning is a subset of the AI branch of computer science. I agree that the pop culture definition of AI is different than the computer science one, but the computer science one is still valid.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Large language models and "generative AI" such as Stable Diffusion, Midjourney, and DALL-E are all just machine learning models. We do not currently have a real "AI branch" of computer science, we have a branch of machine learning that poses as AI.

No matter how good a machine gets at recognizing and predicting patterns, it will not constitute AI, as intelligence is different from pattern recognition and prediction. Even if LLMs can sometimes appear to be reasoning, they importantly are not.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

to be fair, the LLMs they use for chatbots and stolen pics generator is not AI either.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I just find it to be a great rule of thumb. Those who understand what they are doing will be aware that they are not dealing with AI, those who jump to label it as such are usually bullshit artists.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago

Most rational AI hater.

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