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"Oh, but Robert E. Lee was such a Southern Gentleman!" (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by [M] to c/historymemes@lemmy.world
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[–] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

so I guess there is no difference at all. I can take em to the dog park and watch em run and tussle and play fetch...

it's clear they are different, and saying they're not is just a lie.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    so I guess there is no difference at all. I can take em to the dog park and watch em run and tussle and play fetch…

    I mean, I'm not a vegan, but yes, you literally can. Pigs are generally regarded as intelligent creatures in the same vein as dogs.

    it’s clear they are different, and saying they’re not is just a lie.

    What animals we eat and which we don't is a purely cultural affectation. There's nothing wrong with a cultural affectation, but there's not a fundamental difference between what creatures it's okay to eat and which it is not okay to eat.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    even among animals we eat, there are clearly differences. denying this doesn't serve anyone.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    In parts of Africa, monkeys are eaten. In parts of Asia, dog is eaten.

    Cat is generally not eaten in most cultures outside of spiritual and crisis contexts because it's stringy, apparently.

    Our tradition of not eating certain animals is just that - tradition. It's not anything deeper, and certainly not universal.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    this has nothing to do with whether there is a difference between dogs and cows, which there clearly is.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    this appears to be an appeal to ridicule.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Your point about being housebroken was shown to be wrong. Your point about fetch was shown to be wrong. No one is saying a cow is a dog. You are being deliberately obtuse to avoid the unpleasant idea that cows are just as sentient and loving as many dogs (most dog breeds are smarter than cows but some breeds are stupid). But for cultural reasons we don't eat dogs.

    I'm not vegan either but I recognize the horror.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    so you know they are not the same

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    They are the same in the ways that are relevant to this argument. Some dogs aren't housebroken. Some dogs you can't play fetch with. Do you eat those dogs?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    i didnt suggest eating any animal is ok. I'm pointing out that is simply untrue to claim there isn't a lick of difference between cows and dogs

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    There's a difference between different dogs too. You write like all dogs are the same. Again not all dogs play fetch or are housebroken.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    this doesn't change whether dogs are different from cows

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Your argument wasn't that cows are different than dogs but that you could play fetch with them.

    Stop ignoring the actual argument.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Your argument wasn’t that cows are different than dogs

    that's all i've been arguing this whole time.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    The differences that everyone has already acknowledged that exist between a dog and a cow isn't relevant to this particular argument.

    I've already said a cow isn't a dog. You keep repeating an argument no one is making.

    The argument is about the ways in which a cow is similar to a dog.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    if there is more than a lick of difference, and you can admit that, then there is no further discussion.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The differences being discussed are what makes one animal food.

    Again absolutely no one has said a cow is a dog.

    That's a strawman you prop up because you thought cows were practically vegetables. Then I showed you that they can be house trained and play fetch.

    You were wrong.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    picks up goal post and moves it still sounds like a dumbass

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