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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -1 points 7 months ago

(they're not, because Harris wouldn't have advocated turning it into a riviera, cut USAID that helped Gazans, or escalated in bombing Iran, leaving aside the fact that Bibi explicitly wanted),

Slightly less fascist rhetoric doesn't matter if it's not accompanied by actions, I haven't heard of significant USAID involvement in Gaza during the war, Democrats haven't opposed the bombings much* and fascists aren't the smartest bunch, respectively.

*This is a valid point, but I disagree. I know about the war powers resolution, but no establishment Democrat leaders have actually indicated they'd use that to stop the bombings. Schumer simply wanted the bombings to be done with congressional approval. The bombings are much better understood in terms of Israeli domestic politics given that Netanyahu's government was facing dissolution. If anything Trump did get Netanyahu to stop; I'm not sure we could expect the same from AIPAC Democrats.

In a binary choice election with the inevitable choices being Harris or Trump, one opted to assert both sides / false equivalence Harris being obviously better on:

Okay but the very real problems that depressed Democratic turnout weren't disinformation; the Democrat pitch was legitimately terrible. Whether that justified not voting aside, scathing criticism of the Democrats was justified and not disinformation.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Like I said, you willingly threw Ukrainians under the bus in this self-defeating mindset, leaving aside the other issues mentioned..

So just tell me you don't care about:

  • Climate Change (and resulting deaths)
  • Healthcare
  • LGBTQ+ rights (and resulting discrimination)
  • Women's bodily autonomy
  • Ukraine (and Russia's ongoing genocide in Ukraine; so are bystanders complicit in genocide there?)
  • Economic Inequality
  • Immigration (and resulting deportations, alligator auschwitz, etc.)

And I'll actually understand a little better!

Also you weren't aware USAID helped Palestinians? Inform yourself! https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-106243#%3A%7E%3Atext=Fast+Facts%2Cfiscal+years+2020+through+2022.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 7 months ago

I''m not American so I couldn't vote either way, but calling out assholes like Pelosi and Schumer for being oligarchy and AIPAC stooges is not and was not disinformation. Voting for Harris is its own conversation and has nothing to do with that. Also your link's information ends in 2022.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Criticism of Dems, specifically false equivalence botherism, was objectively disinfo. We know Israel and Russia have troll farms that supported Republicans, and many people including yourself lapped up that rhetoric. Doesn't matter if you're a US citizen or not. You helped amplify the propaganda. So thanks for that.

Billions in aid to Gaza and West Bank even through 2022 prove the point regardless, but sure: https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-usaid-gaza-ceasefire-0a56d5d591c249eb5e44ba29c9adaa3e

You still didn't answer: do you not care about all those issues?

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