▲ 1447 ▼ "Sponsored recommendations": I pay for Spotify Premium, and yet somehow I'm still the product? (lemmy.one) submitted 3 years ago by ojmcelderry@lemmy.one to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world 382 comments fedilink hide all child comments I opened Spotify this morning to be greeted by a modal popup with a "sponsored recommendation". Why am I seeing ads if I'm already paying for the premium plan!? 😑
[–] rubikcuber@feddit.uk 198 points 3 years ago (4 children) If you're not paying you are the product. If you ARE paying you are STILL the product. This is how big tech works. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 41 points 3 years ago (1 child) Basically every computer hardware manufacturer is collecting telemetry and sending it home. If you’re using MacOS or Windows, your OS is doing it aswell permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (3 children) Or Android, or iOS, or a Chromebook, or whatever other OS you're using next year, if it isn't some sort of Linux/UNIX system... and even some of those might not be great, but at least you can find out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Tbh i have used linux on my home pc for years now and now they are very polished products , except most corporate apps are not there ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which corporate apps? Perhaps I'm lucky, but I rarely have an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Adobe , microsoft office , catia etc etc etc permalink fedilink source parent [–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I mean.. Android and ChromeOS are Linux underneath. MacOS is.. related to Unix. Hang on, I need to look up that lineage.. Also Lineage. Edit: MacOS used/uses the Mach kernel, and uses code “derived from BSD”, vague as Wikipedia is. That could mean it’s a whole copy-paste or that it just borrows ideas from BSD. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago It has a history in the US anti trust (when the laws really worked) permalink fedilink source parent [–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago MacOS has userland tools from some FreeBSD version (quite obsolete, IIRC). Also there's a port of bhyve called xhyve for MacOS. Its kernel I wouldn't expect to have much in common with BSDs. permalink fedilink source parent [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) I suspect that's a fraction of a percent of Android devices, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 28 points 3 years ago You become the product with name, address, and payment details attached to the account for improved demographic data for them to collect. Win win. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago But you're paying for the GOOD recommendations now, not the free bad ones... /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago That's not how big tech works, it's how DRM works. It is possible to sell music/games/movies in an ethical way, without DRM. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 41 points 3 years ago (1 child) Basically every computer hardware manufacturer is collecting telemetry and sending it home. If you’re using MacOS or Windows, your OS is doing it aswell permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (3 children) Or Android, or iOS, or a Chromebook, or whatever other OS you're using next year, if it isn't some sort of Linux/UNIX system... and even some of those might not be great, but at least you can find out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Tbh i have used linux on my home pc for years now and now they are very polished products , except most corporate apps are not there ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which corporate apps? Perhaps I'm lucky, but I rarely have an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Adobe , microsoft office , catia etc etc etc permalink fedilink source parent [–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I mean.. Android and ChromeOS are Linux underneath. MacOS is.. related to Unix. Hang on, I need to look up that lineage.. Also Lineage. Edit: MacOS used/uses the Mach kernel, and uses code “derived from BSD”, vague as Wikipedia is. That could mean it’s a whole copy-paste or that it just borrows ideas from BSD. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago It has a history in the US anti trust (when the laws really worked) permalink fedilink source parent [–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago MacOS has userland tools from some FreeBSD version (quite obsolete, IIRC). Also there's a port of bhyve called xhyve for MacOS. Its kernel I wouldn't expect to have much in common with BSDs. permalink fedilink source parent [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) I suspect that's a fraction of a percent of Android devices, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (3 children) Or Android, or iOS, or a Chromebook, or whatever other OS you're using next year, if it isn't some sort of Linux/UNIX system... and even some of those might not be great, but at least you can find out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Tbh i have used linux on my home pc for years now and now they are very polished products , except most corporate apps are not there ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which corporate apps? Perhaps I'm lucky, but I rarely have an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Adobe , microsoft office , catia etc etc etc permalink fedilink source parent [–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I mean.. Android and ChromeOS are Linux underneath. MacOS is.. related to Unix. Hang on, I need to look up that lineage.. Also Lineage. Edit: MacOS used/uses the Mach kernel, and uses code “derived from BSD”, vague as Wikipedia is. That could mean it’s a whole copy-paste or that it just borrows ideas from BSD. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago It has a history in the US anti trust (when the laws really worked) permalink fedilink source parent [–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago MacOS has userland tools from some FreeBSD version (quite obsolete, IIRC). Also there's a port of bhyve called xhyve for MacOS. Its kernel I wouldn't expect to have much in common with BSDs. permalink fedilink source parent [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) I suspect that's a fraction of a percent of Android devices, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Tbh i have used linux on my home pc for years now and now they are very polished products , except most corporate apps are not there ! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which corporate apps? Perhaps I'm lucky, but I rarely have an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Adobe , microsoft office , catia etc etc etc permalink fedilink source parent
[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which corporate apps? Perhaps I'm lucky, but I rarely have an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Adobe , microsoft office , catia etc etc etc permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Adobe , microsoft office , catia etc etc etc permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I mean.. Android and ChromeOS are Linux underneath. MacOS is.. related to Unix. Hang on, I need to look up that lineage.. Also Lineage. Edit: MacOS used/uses the Mach kernel, and uses code “derived from BSD”, vague as Wikipedia is. That could mean it’s a whole copy-paste or that it just borrows ideas from BSD. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago It has a history in the US anti trust (when the laws really worked) permalink fedilink source parent [–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago MacOS has userland tools from some FreeBSD version (quite obsolete, IIRC). Also there's a port of bhyve called xhyve for MacOS. Its kernel I wouldn't expect to have much in common with BSDs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 5 points 3 years ago It has a history in the US anti trust (when the laws really worked) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago MacOS has userland tools from some FreeBSD version (quite obsolete, IIRC). Also there's a port of bhyve called xhyve for MacOS. Its kernel I wouldn't expect to have much in common with BSDs. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) I suspect that's a fraction of a percent of Android devices, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) I suspect that's a fraction of a percent of Android devices, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 28 points 3 years ago You become the product with name, address, and payment details attached to the account for improved demographic data for them to collect. Win win. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago But you're paying for the GOOD recommendations now, not the free bad ones... /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago That's not how big tech works, it's how DRM works. It is possible to sell music/games/movies in an ethical way, without DRM. permalink fedilink source parent
