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Reddit in talks to embrace Sam Altman’s iris-scanning Orb to verify users (www.semafor.com)
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[–] 45 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

Scan your biounique eyeball to provide ID whilst retaining your anonymity???

Anonymity and the ability for someone else to prove it was me are nearly opposites.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    I mean, I don't trust OpenAI or Reddit either but these two things aren't as mutually exclusive as they seem.

    With zero-knowledge principles you could maintain anonymity while still verifying identity. Doesn't mean that's what big tech is doing or is gonna do, but also doesn't mean it's physically unreal or anything either. We could build a not shitty system.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Biounique id is an advertiser's wet dream and I don't think it's theoretically possible to prevent it from being exploited for profiling by Google. If the hashed encrypted token retains the uniqueness then it points to you as an individual across time, devices and location changes. There is no escaping this ID. You can't change it, you can't get a new one.

    Google and other multinational corporations WILL know where you live and can figure out all your personal characteristics with a little time. Your anonymity is gone forever.

    Sam Altman saw the film Minority Report in which iris scanners on holographic billboards trigger the advertisements to address you by name, hampering the escape of the central character who was being set up, and thought "Cool, let's make this. I'm going to be rich! The other dystopian aspects of the film are fiction, but this one I can make real."

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Also look at how FB et al can't even keep themselves from tracking you all over the internet using all kinds of clever engineering engineering beyond plain cookies.

    If it actually becomes ubiquitous, the ability to tie all the anonymous impressions to one person is too tempting for surveillance ghouls.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    In theory the unique id produced by the scan could be salted by you, uniquely for each website or application, and then provided to the site. This would keep aggregators from being able to track all your activity, or at least it would if they didn't already have fingerprinting techniques that do it without the need of another unique identifier.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    If the biometric ID is collected and stored by someone else, not only have I lost my anonymity, I've also lost control of my identity and there's no way for me to stop that happening.

    This is unequivocally bad for privacy.

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