screenshot of a social media post, one user says "It's impressive how Niel Gaiman vanished from the internet. Wish Rowling would do the same." Another user responds, "Also impressive how quickly and thoroughly people who previously loved his work have disowned it, stopped buying it, and stopped discussing it. Wish Rowling's fans would do the same."
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[–] 47 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I still enjoy his writing, but I'm not sure how to engage now. I want to separate the artist from the art and let the legal system do its thing as a separate thing and I don't know what 'right' looks like as a reader

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I can't separate artist and art. I feel guilty and angry. But I also don't want to. Money to them is money to their deeds. Paying for anything Harry Potter is paying for anti-trans movements. Paying anything Gaiman goes to the "fix your image" firm he has hired. Then I start thinking that firm is probably out there with messaging convincing people to separate art from the artist.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Heres what you can do:

    Encourage people to pirate his shit

    Remind people what he did. In detail.

    Start with me! I know he did... Some rapey shit? Pro ably wizard flavored?

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    Wow that's...

    What strikes me is how boring the abuse was. Like, boiler plate horror. Maybe this does make me think less of him as an author, not just as a person.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Well I haven't looked into the 8 other women. But at least one of the others was absolutely raped, and another was paid off in exchange for an NDA

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Right but like 'call me master' DUDE

    Fucking do better. Not even be less a piece of shit, but a more interesting piece of shit.

    Like 'i hired a PI to learn the song you had your first kiss to, then spent a week practicing, so just as the acid and molly kick in...'

    Or, idk, a choir? Some chanting?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    He's not glamorous he's an ordinary creep.

    One of them was one of his tenants, when her husband left her and the kids she could no longer pay rent so he made her give him blowjobs. It's about as unimaginative and textbook as it gets.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    ordinary creep

    It looks like, and that's what's so extra-disappointing about it.

    Edit: Say what ypu want about peter thiel, that fucker will end the world if we don't end him first, but i can respect the weird repressed christofascist homosexuality manifesting in violence-intimacy-grandiose-ambition-hierarchalist blood-boy shit. That's cool and exciting.

    I would just... Im not just disappointed that hes a piece of shit, but that he's such a boring piece of shit. Getting outcreeped by the paypal guys.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I can't respect Thiel either. The whole thing stems from lazy thinking and mainlining copium.

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  • As a person, no. As a fucked up evil monster, i can respect how much of a deranged little freak he is.

    Or like a roger stone who reveled in being a creepy bastard.

    Or kissenger!

    But no. Gaiman is just a rapey asshole who thinks other people exist for his juvenile fantasy.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Buying used copies and pirating his stuff so he never sees a penny, and talking about what a pile of shit he is. I do the same with David and Leigh Eddings. Who locked children in cages in their basement and beat them, among other things.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Holy shit, what the fuck? I think I read one edding's book and didn't think much of it, but what the fuck?! Where's my interrobang button!?

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago

    tbh my feelings seem to be guiding things before anything like rational morality does - I feel cognitive dissonance about his art because of the association with him as a rapist, and that's enough for me to ditch his art without having to justify it as a moral necessity that others must do as well.

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