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[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Authoritarianism is literally a defining feature of communism. Redefining terms to escape the reality of what ideologies look like when implemented is just dishonest.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Communism literally - by Marx and Engel's own definition - requires the "withering away of the state". As the creators and originators of the very concept of "communism", can you name one society that has met their criteria or achieved the goals laid out in their definition?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, I understand that Marx and Engels did not have realistic political ideals and that every attempt to implement their ideology has diverged from their utopian vision into authoritarianism when reality hits that ideology. That's the point.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Yes, I understand that Marx and Engels did not have realistic political ideals

Have you read any of Marx? I'm not an ML but if you even glance at Capital you can tell that Marx's whole schtick was using science to come up with realistic political ideals.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Then why didn't he come up with realistic political ideas

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