▲ 633 ▼ "You have no say in this at all. Federal law is supreme and federal law will be enforced." (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago by SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 146 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source of news: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/7/ice-launches-military-style-raids-in-los-angeles-what-we-know This is Stephen Miller's (White House Deputy Chief) response to Karen Bass (Los Angeles Mayor).
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 27 points 1 year ago (2 children) No, Stephen, it isn't. Fuck off and die. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 year ago Wrong argument: he's literally citing the supremacy clause. A better argument would be that same constitution prohibits violation of limits on federal power, especially the bill of rights, enumerated powers, judicial review. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Let me be devil's advocate here for a sec. Yes it is. Unless a federal law breaks any federal law, international laws, treaties or human rights its latterly the highest level of law in a democratic country in this modern world. (And also, i agree with the major. If your community thrives or immigrants fills gaps in the community then fucking let them. Your community is better for it) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Federal law in USA is supposed to cover mostly commerce and interstate matters (and enforcement of constitutional rights) and what the states allow the federal government to manage. The federal gov is created as a contract between the states and a delegation of power from them. So no. It's kinda unusual in that way too, compared to other countries formed from multiple states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Suppose and what is in its power is a different thing. Imo federal law, just like eu law, should be law that all members must implement but should only be made for the better of the population as a whole, no matter their origins, social status, living status or whatever. Humanity goes first (oh no! Socialism aaaahhhh!! /s). One could say that those laws are interstate matters btw :p But has usa really been setup for federal level laws to mean... Nothing for the states and its people..? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 year ago It's not doing well in the EU either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 year ago The feds are breaking the law but my compatriots by and large have given them a pass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] danzabia@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago Thank you for taking one for the team. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Fortunately, there already are quite a lot of laws limiting federal power, so maybe stop agreeing with the fascists as they rewrite reality by fiat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Maybe you should read what i said. I was playing devil's advocate to make people think about the other side, thats what that means. And i dont bloody agree with facists, seriously permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 year ago Wrong argument: he's literally citing the supremacy clause. A better argument would be that same constitution prohibits violation of limits on federal power, especially the bill of rights, enumerated powers, judicial review. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Let me be devil's advocate here for a sec. Yes it is. Unless a federal law breaks any federal law, international laws, treaties or human rights its latterly the highest level of law in a democratic country in this modern world. (And also, i agree with the major. If your community thrives or immigrants fills gaps in the community then fucking let them. Your community is better for it) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Federal law in USA is supposed to cover mostly commerce and interstate matters (and enforcement of constitutional rights) and what the states allow the federal government to manage. The federal gov is created as a contract between the states and a delegation of power from them. So no. It's kinda unusual in that way too, compared to other countries formed from multiple states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Suppose and what is in its power is a different thing. Imo federal law, just like eu law, should be law that all members must implement but should only be made for the better of the population as a whole, no matter their origins, social status, living status or whatever. Humanity goes first (oh no! Socialism aaaahhhh!! /s). One could say that those laws are interstate matters btw :p But has usa really been setup for federal level laws to mean... Nothing for the states and its people..? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 year ago It's not doing well in the EU either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 year ago The feds are breaking the law but my compatriots by and large have given them a pass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] danzabia@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago Thank you for taking one for the team. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Fortunately, there already are quite a lot of laws limiting federal power, so maybe stop agreeing with the fascists as they rewrite reality by fiat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Maybe you should read what i said. I was playing devil's advocate to make people think about the other side, thats what that means. And i dont bloody agree with facists, seriously permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Federal law in USA is supposed to cover mostly commerce and interstate matters (and enforcement of constitutional rights) and what the states allow the federal government to manage. The federal gov is created as a contract between the states and a delegation of power from them. So no. It's kinda unusual in that way too, compared to other countries formed from multiple states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Suppose and what is in its power is a different thing. Imo federal law, just like eu law, should be law that all members must implement but should only be made for the better of the population as a whole, no matter their origins, social status, living status or whatever. Humanity goes first (oh no! Socialism aaaahhhh!! /s). One could say that those laws are interstate matters btw :p But has usa really been setup for federal level laws to mean... Nothing for the states and its people..? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 year ago It's not doing well in the EU either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Suppose and what is in its power is a different thing. Imo federal law, just like eu law, should be law that all members must implement but should only be made for the better of the population as a whole, no matter their origins, social status, living status or whatever. Humanity goes first (oh no! Socialism aaaahhhh!! /s). One could say that those laws are interstate matters btw :p But has usa really been setup for federal level laws to mean... Nothing for the states and its people..? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 year ago It's not doing well in the EU either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 1 year ago It's not doing well in the EU either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 year ago The feds are breaking the law but my compatriots by and large have given them a pass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] danzabia@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago Thank you for taking one for the team. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Fortunately, there already are quite a lot of laws limiting federal power, so maybe stop agreeing with the fascists as they rewrite reality by fiat permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Maybe you should read what i said. I was playing devil's advocate to make people think about the other side, thats what that means. And i dont bloody agree with facists, seriously permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Maybe you should read what i said. I was playing devil's advocate to make people think about the other side, thats what that means. And i dont bloody agree with facists, seriously permalink fedilink source parent
