▲ 633 ▼ "You have no say in this at all. Federal law is supreme and federal law will be enforced." (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago by SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 146 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source of news: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/7/ice-launches-military-style-raids-in-los-angeles-what-we-know This is Stephen Miller's (White House Deputy Chief) response to Karen Bass (Los Angeles Mayor).
[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 37 points 1 year ago (2 children) federal law does supercede state law (Art 6 Sec 2) Only to the extent that the Federal law is constitutional (ie within its powers) and valid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago And to the extent that they are actually following the federal law, regardless of its constitutionality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) That's a fair point. But it would need to be argued in the courts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago Mmm, maybe, I'm pretty sure there's pretty solid case law precedent on this. It's been heavily litigated over the centuries. The parameters around what is within the jurisdiction of the US Federal govt is pretty clear. Fundamentally Article I, Section 8 of US Constitution although there's a few other loose ends (implied powers). "The enumerated powers listed in Article One include both exclusive federal powers, as well as concurrent powers that are shared with the states, and all of those powers are to be contrasted with reserved powers that only the states possess" permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) And "constitutionality" is defined by the Supreme Court... Doh! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago Yeah, the courts being captured is possibly the biggest problem facing the US right now. They're what makes all the bad stuff the current regime is doing possible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago And to the extent that they are actually following the federal law, regardless of its constitutionality. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) That's a fair point. But it would need to be argued in the courts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago Mmm, maybe, I'm pretty sure there's pretty solid case law precedent on this. It's been heavily litigated over the centuries. The parameters around what is within the jurisdiction of the US Federal govt is pretty clear. Fundamentally Article I, Section 8 of US Constitution although there's a few other loose ends (implied powers). "The enumerated powers listed in Article One include both exclusive federal powers, as well as concurrent powers that are shared with the states, and all of those powers are to be contrasted with reserved powers that only the states possess" permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) And "constitutionality" is defined by the Supreme Court... Doh! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago Yeah, the courts being captured is possibly the biggest problem facing the US right now. They're what makes all the bad stuff the current regime is doing possible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago Mmm, maybe, I'm pretty sure there's pretty solid case law precedent on this. It's been heavily litigated over the centuries. The parameters around what is within the jurisdiction of the US Federal govt is pretty clear. Fundamentally Article I, Section 8 of US Constitution although there's a few other loose ends (implied powers). "The enumerated powers listed in Article One include both exclusive federal powers, as well as concurrent powers that are shared with the states, and all of those powers are to be contrasted with reserved powers that only the states possess" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) And "constitutionality" is defined by the Supreme Court... Doh! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago Yeah, the courts being captured is possibly the biggest problem facing the US right now. They're what makes all the bad stuff the current regime is doing possible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago Yeah, the courts being captured is possibly the biggest problem facing the US right now. They're what makes all the bad stuff the current regime is doing possible. permalink fedilink source parent
