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Discussion Thread 🍿 Monday 9 June 2025 (aussie.zone)
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[–] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-08/lucy-letby-case-baby-murders-prison-one-problem/105384820
I found this incredibly interesting. It's the first I've heard of any doubt about Lucy Letby's guilt. Lots of interesting points raised

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Yeah, I saw that too but refrained from commenting here. Trial by Media is definitely a thing, and the current mushroom case is imo a prime example, and there are some people on this platform who have already made up their minds as to Erin's guilt even though the trial isn't over yet.

    I am also old enough to remember the Azaria Chamberlain hooha too. Funny how this sort of thing happens to plain women who don't mirror the prevailing social norms for looks and/or behaviour. And has for centuries - the Spanish Inquisition, the witchhunt crazes of 16th & 17th century Europe and probably before then too.

    Not news, what's news is that this article was written so soon after the successful accusation and 'punishment'. Usually there's a time lag of several decades eg Lindy Chamberlain. Or centuries - eg witchhunts.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    treating plain women poorly or as invisible is an unspoken thing done by many humans

    often people who do it won't even acknowledge that's how they think and behave

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I’ve been both dolled up and plain and there is a tangible difference to how you get treated.

    I choose to look plain these days just so I can get a clearer read on character.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Word. I wear no makeup, I don't have high-end fashion clothing, and I don't really do much to my hair or style it. The difference between me now and me 10yrs ago (when I did do those things) is funny and sad.

    I'd rather do without all the extra stuff and, like you said, get a better read on character, than to doll myself up and question whether everyone is genuine or not.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    100% agreed

    While I do comment about Erin, I have not really made up my mind and my opinion will not change the outcome - there is a jury whose job is to do that (and the judge).

    Lindy Chamberlain was such a phenomenon - so many TV shows and media made fun of her (thinking of that Seinfeld episode where Elaine says to the Aussie couple "a dingo ate your baby"), when it turns out that she didn't do it and the First Nations people were right - a dingo did take her baby. An example of society not listening to plain women (read: not a hot, skinny chick) and First Nations people. And what happened? They fucking found the baby's clothing in a dingo den - funny that.

    Regarding this nurse, it was definitely trial by media, everyone already was talking about it like she did it and we were just waiting for the justice system to catch up. It sucks babies died, but it sounds like the hospital (specifically those wards) we're understaffed, so she picked up extra shifts. Statistically, if she picked up extra shifts and did overtime, she's going to be present for more deaths than other nurses who didn't. Her diary entries shouldn't be admissable, they were venting and trying to process the grief. Idk. It's fucked up all ways to Sunday.

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