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[–] 60 points 1 year ago (32 children)

Apart from the terrible environmental effects, they're a blast. I'm not in for slides and shit, but the full experience is generally really enjoyable. If you like to travel, it's also a good way to trial destinations before committing to a long vacation somewhere.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    Trial what destinations exactly? Arrive at Island port. Hecklers everywhere. Arrive at next Island. More hecklers. Rinse and repeat.

    "Damn, I had a blast!"

    I'm telling you, a Euro-trip on rail will net you more adventure and better pacing with vastly more interesting destination. Possibly even comfort, if you take sleeper trains.

    I'm hoping they'll ban these cruise ships from the Mediterranean altogether.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    What you explained is what I'd expect someone who's never been on a cruise before to describe a cruise. Sure, there's hecklers at the port immediately off the boat. Walk out of that area and it goes away, like every tourist destination.

    Most cruise stops that I've been on have been around 8 hours, which is ample time to experience a bit of a location. I have only been on two cruises, so I'm by no means a seasoned traveler.

    Unfortunately, the Caribbean doesn't have a rail system between the islands, so boating is the main option. While most cruises aren't luxury, and to get a suite is $$$, they are comfortable rides, almost assuredly more comfortable than a train, barring rough seas, which I've experienced once, and it wasn't that bad. They are slower than trains, but they have a dozen floors, 100 bars, pools, live entertainment, and a plethora of other things. I have enjoyed some of my at seas days more than some stops. Finally, vastly more interesting destinations is extremely subjective. There are cruises that go all over the world, so the number and choices of destinations is huge.

    I'm not going to argue you least point. Like I first mentioned, they're terrible for the environment. All of my words above are just in response to, "why would anyone get one one of these", not to defend the existence of cruises.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    There are cruises that go all over the world, so the number and choices of destinations is huge.

    Sure, but cruises are limited to basically just coastline and port cities, whereas literally any other mode of transportation can get you to all of those places too, plus all the other 90% of land on the planet. Saying "the number and choices of destinations is huge" is technically correct, but basically meaningless when you compare it with all other modes of transportation.

    Really the only places cruises can go that other modes maybe can't is:

    1. Remote places like the northern coasts of Alaska or Scandinavia
    2. The middle of the ocean

    I can kinda see why someone would take a cruise to the first item, but I can't bring myself to understand the second. Like, cruising around the empty ocean for days/weeks on end sounds so boring that you'd need "12 floors, 100 bars, live entertainment, and a plethora of other things" to make it even bearable. They created their own problem (finding entertainment in the middle of empty ocean) and solved it in the most brute force, environmentally unsustainable, and legally sketchy way possible.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    When you port somewhere, you can rent a vehicle or take a taxi to places not in the port town. If you want to travel to various tropical islands, you can fly or float, it's not like there are a bunch of transportation options that can take you everywhere.

    I'm not saying that rail is a worse option, I'm saying that cruises are fun, and that's why people go on them, which was the initial question I responded to.

    Clearly you've never experienced what a cruise is like. You're coming to these conclusions that just aren't based on reality. A cruise ship is a small town full of entertainment. If there were no entertainment, yea, floating in the ocean would get boring after a few hours, unless you're into that kind of thing. They are mobile resorts, and when you wake up, you're in a new location. They aren't over crowded, except when everyone is boarding and leaving, but that's true with literally every form of mass transportation.

    Some people take cruises and never leave the boat. They like to relax by the pool, enjoy the spa, partake in on board activities, gamble in the casino, eat all of the included free food or drinks, or whatever.

    I'm not defending the environment part, or the legally sketchy stuff, but they're entertaining.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You're coming to these conclusions that just aren't based on reality.

    I'm sharing subjective opinions based on my own preferences and lived experiences. Sorry they don't match up with yours, but we're having a disagreement about big boats, not a crisis of reality.

    Clearly you've never experienced what a cruise is like.

    Correct, because they don't interest me, and I'm not convinced enough by the people that like cruises to warrant spending the money on them.

    There are thousands of existing "small towns full of entertainment" I'd rather go to than a cruise. I don't need my resort to be mobile, and if I want to end up in a new location, I'll book travel to that location. I don't need to go on a cruise to relax by a pool, or enjoy a spa, or partake in any of the mundane activities offered on board, or gamble in a casino, or eat food and drink drinks. Cruises don't offer anything unique that I can't find somewhere else, other than the novelty of being a cruise, and that novelty just doesn't interest me.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm saying the conclusions you're coming to that are wrong are things like, your stuck in a port town, or there's nothing to do out at sea. That's it. I'm not trying to convince you to go on a cruise, I'm still in reference to the OG question, why would anyone get on a cruise. You provided counter points that I'm refuting as not factual. You've not experienced a cruise, and you shouldn't based on your feelings towards boats, but you speak as though you have and are providing anecdotes.

    Cruises aren't for everyone, but they are entertaining, that's the whole point I'm trying to make.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    your stuck in a port town

    I said you're basically limited to coastline and port cities to point out the contrast to other modes of travel that aren't nearly as restricted. You either missed that point, or you're being pedantic.

    there's nothing to do out at sea

    My point was that without cruise ships, there would be nothing to do out at sea. Cruise ships solve the problem of "there's nothing to do or at sea", but in an unnecessary and dumb way, in my opinion. So again, I think you missed the point of what I was trying to say.

    Ultimately I don't really care what anyone's opinion on cruises are. What I do care about is making sure I'm understood correctly, hopefully this helps.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    there’s nothing to do or at sea

    Just being out on the sea is by itself a worthwhile experience, in my opinion. At least the first time. like flying, it is super boring sitting in a plane for multiple hours. But the first time being above the clouds is cool.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    What is a heckler? Like the people who interrupt stand ups? I went on two cruises with my family when I was a kid. And I can assure you the only stand-up anyone experiences is on the ship in between ports.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I think they're referring to hawkers, or people on the streets harassing you to buy something. I don't know why everyone here is calling them hecklers and not confused by that.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    And coming from a well off family, why is it wrong for me to buy stuff?

    Not saying that is the argument you're making/defending. Just don't see a problem with helping people out.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Dunno what you mean with hecklers but you arrive at a part, tour the city, go eat somewhere, you know, spend time in the destination city and then you move on.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    You don't have time though. They typically only stay there for a day.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    That's plenty of time for a quick visit though?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    I don't know. When I go to a city as a tourist, I typically stay for 4 to 7 days before moving elsewhere, so that I at least have a very vague idea of what the place is like. One afternoon isn't enough time to do anything, you can see a museum and have a coffee, which is nice, but doesn't tell you much about the place.
    I suppose it's another way to visit, but it's odd to me.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You're there to visit it, you don't need to learn the whole city lol

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Sometimes it's not about the city you port in. I've been to St. Kitts a couple of times and have kayaked, snorkelled, toured, and chilled on a beach. I've gone SCUBA diving during a stop in Puerto Rico, and horseback riding in St Maarten. I mentioned it in another post, but now I would be willing to book a week long trip in some of the destinations I've been to with a confidence that I'll enjoy it.

    Most of my vacations are to single destinations, but the sampler platter that is a cruise is fun too, just for different reasons.

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  • [+] 9 points 1 year ago* (2 children)
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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    What's wrong with floating? The boats are huge. Unless it's rough seas, you don't know that you're on water.

    All of the shipping centers are in lower floors dedicated to shopping. Don't want to buy anything? Just don't go to floor 7, it's that easy to avoid. If you get seasick, then maybe cruises aren't for you, but motion sickness medicine is available for those that do have the ailment. If pulled off the side of a catamaran in Hawaii, which is when I found out that I do get motion sickness. That's never been an issue in a cruise for me. Again, they are so large, it's like not being on a boat at all.

    All of you arguments stem down to, "why would someone go on a trip that they don't want to go on?" The answer is, don't, but there are a ton of reasons that people do. I don't go to casinos and gamble, because they're dirty and I don't like gambling.

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