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Most aggressive dog breeds (lemmy.world)
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[–] 0 points 1 year ago* (15 children)

Bred for the size, trained for the aggression. I've seen typically passive breeds be overly aggressive in exactly the way that the breed is known for not being.

They're animals.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Have you ever seen a puppy of a working dog? Pointers will point. The training they receive is what to point, not how. Retrievers will retrieve, herders will herd, trackers will track. But when someone suggests that a dog that has been specifically bred to fight and kill, oh, they were just trained that way. No, they have been specifically selected for aggression and prey drive. It is at best naive and at worst deadly to think that a working dog comes as a blank slate and will only perform actions it has been trained on.

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  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Have you ever seen a puppy of a working dog? Pointers will point. The training they receive is what to point, not how. Retrievers will retrieve, herders will herd, trackers will track.

    That's not how genetics works my guy. None of those things are heritable traits. Being smart, being trainable, those are traits that puppies can inherit. Being a good tracker isn't. That's learned behavior. If you've seen puppies pointing, retrieving, herding, or tracking, it's because they learned it from some other dog, animal, or human.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    This is EXACTLY how genetics works. Research the Belyaev's domestic fox program. It took about 4 generations of choosing the calmest and friendliest to make a domestic fix on par with our domestic dog breeds.

    This is what dog breeding is. Breeding to get a specific dog behaviour was literally 90% of dog breeding ... before the weird cosmetic trend started.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    ? You don't think animals naturally know how to do things?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That's not what I said dude

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    A bird can naturally know how to build a nest but a dog can't naturally know how to follow an animal?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Still not comparable to what I said.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is comparable.

    I implore you to look up videos of working dog puppies. Duck hunters don't get retrievers because they like how they look, they get them because they have been selected over generations on their inherent retrieving drive, which is a natural trait of dogs. You are objectively wrong about these traits not being inheritable. These dogs need to be trained what to retrieve, or what to point, not how to do these things. My sister's pointer would point piles of shit, she had to train it to point birds.

    I'm sorry but you are completely wrong about this topic.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Border Collie of a friend is trained to work with mentally ill kids (of course his training isn't that specific but that's what he does) Anyways in his spare time he herds everything. When the wind piles up leaves he will run around that pile frantically barking at every single leaf that falls out of line. "Herding cats" lost all its appeal as a figure of speech to me, as i've seen him do it successfully.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If you're suggesting my neighbours trained her to be aggressive - they didn't - it was their family dog, they did the standard obedience training (sit, stay...) but no protection training. All their other dogs (german shepherds) were friendly.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Do you know how they treated their dogs? I'm not insinuating anything, I've just never dealt with a dog that becomes aggressive and I've owned both rotties and pitties.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well I didn't watch them 24/7 if that's the burden of proof now. I guess they treated all their dogs roughly the same though and for some reason the one whose breeding description essentially reads " Psychotic mauler of all that breathes" behaved accordingly.

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