Most libertarians I know are juuuuust smart enough to get that massive corporate greed and oligarchies are the major problems with the US and that the government is tied to that but not smart enough to understand what capitalism truly is and how it truly works. Because they have that "well if everyone was a capitalist and no one group was ever able to get too powerful" bullshit. They still think capitalism is still just "I buy and sell things." And it's combined with the infantile anarkiddies ideals of "all guberment bad." So they will have these occasionally good takes where the realize the horrors and evil of capitalism but not the cause of any actual real solution against it.
I happen to be friends with a Libertarian from the US, rural fellow, but heir to a lot of money from his family, and is genuinely a party member who's voted for them multiple times. The way it goes with him is the two of us argue over capitalism constantly, and theres no way I can convince him of many Marxist ideas, but the difference between him and any normal libs, which I've noticed, is that unlike a lib, who would only become skeptical of US crimes overseas if it's the "wrong team", he immediately is opposed regardless of who says it, and his opinions on US involvement in foreign countries lines up 100% with mine, despite arriving at those conclusions from very different ideological backgrounds.
I have more hope for this type of person than I do with any liberal, who will only ever have the right opinion on war, genocide, and apartheid decades after it's long over and too late.
A US libertarian who is genuinely anti-war has a more noble cause than most of what passes for "Left" in US politics. Really says a lot.
Most libertarians I know are juuuuust smart enough to get that massive corporate greed and oligarchies are the major problems with the US and that the government is tied to that but not smart enough to understand what capitalism truly is and how it truly works. Because they have that "well if everyone was a capitalist and no one group was ever able to get too powerful" bullshit. They still think capitalism is still just "I buy and sell things." And it's combined with the infantile anarkiddies ideals of "all guberment bad." So they will have these occasionally good takes where the realize the horrors and evil of capitalism but not the cause of any actual real solution against it.
I happen to be friends with a Libertarian from the US, rural fellow, but heir to a lot of money from his family, and is genuinely a party member who's voted for them multiple times. The way it goes with him is the two of us argue over capitalism constantly, and theres no way I can convince him of many Marxist ideas, but the difference between him and any normal libs, which I've noticed, is that unlike a lib, who would only become skeptical of US crimes overseas if it's the "wrong team", he immediately is opposed regardless of who says it, and his opinions on US involvement in foreign countries lines up 100% with mine, despite arriving at those conclusions from very different ideological backgrounds.
I have more hope for this type of person than I do with any liberal, who will only ever have the right opinion on war, genocide, and apartheid decades after it's long over and too late.
Same with my libertarian friends. Its why theyre still my friends heh