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In this fascinating episode of Guerrilla History, we bring on Kit Klarenberg of The Grayzone to discuss the NATO campaign against Yugoslavia, its relevance to today, and the delusion of US air power! We are also lucky to be joined by Nemanja Lukić as a guest host for this episode. In addition to being a keen analyst (and former guest of Guerrilla History), Nemanja personally lived through the bombing campaign. This is a terrific discussion with plenty of history, analysis, and connections being drawn between this event of the past and the ongoing genocide in Gaza. This is an important one, you won't want to miss a minute!

Kit Klarenberg is an investigative journalist and the UK Lead at The Grayzone. He also runs his personal site Global Delinquents and can be found on twitter @KitKlarenberg.

Nemanja Lukić is a Yugoslav anti-imperialist activist who runs the Anti-Imperialist Network website. You can also follow Anti-Imp Net on twitter @antiimpnet. Additionally, you should check out the article that Nemanja mentioned that he coauthored with our friend (and former guest) Alejandro Pedregal here.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean, the Irish Maoist influencer Paul Morrin (the person behind Marxism Today) did this constantly and then other leftist content creators do the same thing with him (like Hakim and Second Thought).

Honestly this is a bit too much purity testing for me. Person A platforms problematic person X, okay, criticism warranted. But is person B also guilty because they platformed person A? ...If so, where does it end? How many degrees of separation before you no longer assign guilt by association. Have you heard of the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon game?

I fully agree that we shouldn't tolerate reactionary views in leftist spaces, but there is such a thing as critical media consumption. We cannot shut ourselves in a bubble. If i were to only listen to people i agree with 100% i would probably only be listening to myself. There are takes i don't agree with and find highly problematic in a lot of leftists, even some of the most progressive ones.

Take for instance the Ukraine conflict. A lot of leftist media figures who are very good on issues like Palestine, decolonization, anti-capitalism, etc., perhaps even on China, can still have wrong (in my opinion) takes on Russia's SMO and do not recognize its anti-fascist character. Because they are misinformed or because they have certain biases. But it is still valuable to listen to many of these people for their other correct takes.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I... get that.

My issue is that ideas or positions that are contradictory to each other are accepted and not really rebuffed; it would be nice, frankly, if they argued or discussed their disagreements more often and frankly and openly.

Instead, we leave the hard questions for later or... never.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Primary and secondary contradictions, etc. etc. Is this the absolutely correct approach? I don't know. All i know is we have limited time and energy to spend in a day and we have to prioritize. We have to triage and address the most pressing issues first.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I certainly agree with that, regarding primary and secondary contradictions. Perhaps you're right.

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