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DC Shooter's 71 year old neighbor interviewed by the press, says the US president needs to tell Israel to get the heck out of Gaza (hexbear.net)
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Old Man: We have 2 people dead in DC. We have 50,000 dead in Gaza. And, how many children starved to death last night? In 1956, Israel invaded Sinai. They invaded Gaza. The United States president at the time, Dwight Eisenhower, put his foot down and he told the French and the British get the heck out of the Suez Canal, and he told Israel to get the heck out of Sinai and out of Gaza. Now, where would we be today if we had a president that could have said that 2 years ago?

Reporter 1: Can you describe again the Elias personality that you met?

Old Man: Quiet and friendly. Quiet and friendly. Yeah. Yeah.

Reporter 2: What's your age if you don't mind?

Old Man: 71. Yeah. I'm the guy with all the with all the signs in the window.

Reporter 1: What do you hope happens next?

Old Man: Ceasefire. No more deaths. No more deaths in DC. No more deaths in Gaza.

Reporter 1: What about with your neighbor?

Old Man: I don't know.

Reporter 3: If you could say something to him right now, what would you want to communicate to him? What would you have said, if you like you said earlier, could talk to him?

Old Man: I would have repeated, what I've already said, "Guns and bombs are not going to end this genocide."

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[–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

I'm not sure what your point is here, so apologies if I'm missing something.

I'm not saying that he had no idea it had happened or no clue someone might knock on his door to interview him. But I'm pretty sure that if one day you're just some Bernie guy with an anti-genocide poster in your window, then the next day the FBI is raiding the house next door & the national press wants to interview you about the killing of two Israeli embassy workers, it's going to feel sudden, unexpected, not something you were really ready for. Not that he didn't have time to comb his beard.

The point is that lots of ordinary people - including Bernie libs - can talk about Israel, it's genocide, and even this shooting, without media training, without experience of being interviewed, without much preparation. And they can do it in simple, direct, moral and empathetic terms without getting tripped up or boxed in by the media.

And yet the vast majority of politicians and pundits, even those with the right position, almost universally cannot. I have my suspicions as to why of course, but it says something pretty damning about the ineffectualness of liberal and even actual left politicians and media figures.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Your post says that fake left politicians don't have messaging discipline. I think you are probably referring to Democrats like AOC, Bernie, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, etc. I don't disagree with you there. My point is that I don't think that the guy in the video would agree with your comment. If he put on a Bernie hat to appear on Fox News, the guy probably thinks that Bernie Sander is spitting.

    There are things that I like about the interview. My favorite part is that the media asked him what he thinks should happen to the the shooting suspect and he shrugs and says "I don't know". The media was baiting for him to call for the shooter to be punished and he didn't fall for it. I like that he blamed Israel for the DC shooting. I don't like that he said that voting is more powerful than violence in the full interview

    Imagine for a second that what this guy had said was not an interview on Fox News, but instead a comment on Hexbear. If someone had commented on Hexbear that violence is wrong and that voting is more powerful than violence, Hexbear would figuratively rip their head off. If a politician had said this same thing, Hexbear would figuratively rip their head off. The distinction between this man and politicians feels entirely vibes based. Politician is bad vibes. Mysterious old man is good vibes.

    The reason that I replied to your comment is that your comment feels exaggerated. You make him out to be a random non-political guy but he printed out paper protest signs and hung them outside his house before the interview. You could see in the interview that the sign was on paper and clearly not waterproof, so it's not like he hangs them up every day. He seems like a man with existing political convictions, especially if he has a speech prepared about the historical precedent of US presidents putting Israel on a leash.

    I'm not saying that the Old Man is good or bad. I liked the interview and I am kind of surprised that people liked the interview so much. I don't want people to misinterpret the interview. Honestly, it could have just been a fluke that the interview went so well.

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