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Liberals: but what if we compromised, how about only some genocide? What if Israel only tortured half as many babies? What if Israel only illegally annexed half of the West Bank instead of their current plan to annex the entire thing? What if people were able to afford 50% of rent and 50% of all bills? What if we only cut Medicare and Medicaid by 50%?
My comment was removed by the mods.. probably because I let my rage show. Though the mod log shows rule 2 instead of rule 1 :P
Here's a longer and nicer version:
I'm a (US) liberal, and I don't approve of any of the views described by kittenzrulz123. Lumping half the country into a single bucket is not going to give you a good overview of the myriad ideals we might have individually.
You have a choice. You can look at the political landscape at the moment of the election and choose one of four options:
At this time, our election system really only works for two parties. Any third-party vote is useless, if not counterproductive. If you can't understand how that math works, let me know and I'll break it down for you. I'd love to change that, but the process is by using our ability during primaries to put forward more liberal candidates that support election reforms, not by putting our heads in the sand and voting 3rd party hoping that we will make people notice... hint: they will not.
If you don't like your choices when you go to the voting booth in November, the solution is to get involved in late November and make things better next time. Join a local democratic organization and become part of the solution. Complaining online about how your choices suck is something we can fix if we all jump in. If you're not doing that, then you are abdicating your responsibility and allowing others to make the choice of who represents us instead. If you choose not to be part of the selection process, the very least you can do is vote for the 'lesser evil' and not make things worse.
Side note: the Primary election is the end of that selection process, not the start. Putting your values on the primary ballot is where you should spend your energy if you're mad at the status quo.
I will admit that I'm angry that we didn't get a Democratic primary and that Harris was ordained as Biden's successor without any popular input. The DNC is to blame for that fuck-up. It's irrefutable, though, that Harris would have been better for Palestine, the US economy, US healthcare, foreign relations, and dozens of other topics than trump is.
Would Claudia de la Cruz have been better? Sure. Her platform looks awesome. Did she have even a chance of winning? no.
It's tragically hilarious how many people think Gaza would be worse-off if Harris won. Like, goddamn, are they not watching the news? Trump's basically at a quarter-chub thinking about putting another one of his shitty towers there once everything is said and done. Just goes to show how many of these virtue-signalers never gave a damn in the first place. They just wanted to look good for their internet points.
Gaza was literally just as bad under Biden, and Harris was emphatic about continuing his policy.
But because you have some psychosexual impression that Trump is "at a quarter-chub" (which you apparently got from "watching the news", which fucking channel was this from), you've decided he's worse
It's hilariously hypocritical that you accuse others of "virtue signalling" (great to see democrats wholly embracing MAGA rhetoric), because you don't have any actual qualitative or quantitative argument for Harris being better, just a vague vibe about her being more virtuous.
The only thing that would be different under Harris is that the US would still be bombing Yemen on Israel's behalf
Trump is literally the worst-case scenario, and the entire world is putting up with his bullshit now. I don't know what reality you're living in.
Only for liberals like you, who are perfectly happy to support genocide so long as it's done with decorum.
The only thing that would be different under Harris is that the US would still be bombing Yemen on Israel’s behalf
Lol. So you know you're wrong, but you're going to double down on supporting genocide anyway.
It's the golfing part you're mad about, of course. The bombing the shit out of Gaza was fine with you so long as it was being done with decorum.
On the other hand, we now have one party that's at least pretending to not like genocide, as opposed to zero major parties like last year.
A lot of the people who didn't vote for Kamala over Palestine have gone to protests, and many of those people have been arrested or worse. That's not even getting to the Palestinian Americans who have had family members killed by U.S. bombs.
Your vile ass is saying it's all internet shit to them while you vote for the people dropping those bombs.