I am aware of

  • Sea-lioning
  • Gaslighting
  • Gish-Galloping
  • Dogpiling

I want to know I theres any others I'm not aware of

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[–] 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Gaslighting could take the form of saying "my political team would never do [the thing]." Their political team subsequently does [the thing]. Then claiming they never said the original statement. Sometimes they're even so fucking stupid as to leave that comment visible so you can just screenshot it and ask "this you?"

... ask me how I know.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Basically every step of the narcissists prayer is attempted gaslighting

    That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Narcissus was so hard done by. The guy clearly was not interested in pursuing a relationship, but everyone was still asking him out all the time. That's harassment. Rhamnusia shouldn't have answered Ameinias' prayer for vengeance. She should have just told Ameinias to get over it and stop staking his self worth on a guy who isn't interested.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    How is that not just lying?

    Gaslighting (if my understanding is correct) is manipulating someone. Making someone question their own sanity, blaming them, isolating from other people and making them dependent on you.

    Lying on the internet to win a stupid argument with a stranger hardly can even start to measure to that.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    From my example, the part where they claim to have not made the argument is what I'd consider gaslighting. My understanding of gaslighting is any attempt to make someone question reality. So the reality is they definitely said one thing. When that goes wrong, they claim to have never said it. It's a tool of someone who manipulates.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Then almost any blatant lie would be gaslighting, which I don't think fits the meaning. My understanding is there are more necessary attributes for a situation to be "gaslighting", mainly the manipulation and dependency.

    If someone lies about what they said in writing (in the age of internet archive of all things) it's just a plain lie, and a dumb one at that.

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