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[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

This is countered by the fact that neutrinos almost never interact with normal matter.

Based on the xkcd discussion posted, you would get a 4 severts dose (lethal radiation) at around 2.3AU. About the orbit of Mars. This is radiation damage however. You likely wouldn't feel it directly, let alone be vaporised. This is also already inside the star going supernova.

To vaporise meat takes about 1500000j/kg. This would equate to 1,500,000 severts. Assuming a point emitter, this would be with 0.004AU, or about 500,000km away. This is likely well within the core of the star, so the maths likely breaks down before this point.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is countered by the fact that neutrinos almost never interact with normal matter.

Follow-up question, then:
When they do in this extreme supernova scenario, are they frying their meat via direct impact (whatever that means at those scales) with the nucleus, or via the Weak Force?

Because none of that energy is going to be transferred electromagnetically, a very strange thing to think about.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Neutrinos can interact with my quarks (and so the nucleus) and electrons. The energy transferred however is very small. Supernova neutrinos are at around 10-12MeV. A photon with the same energy would be around 0.1mm wavelength, or 2.9Ghz. For comparison, you need a wavelength of around 120nm (2500Thz) to crack DNA. This is in the UV band.

In short, neutrinos would damage via thermal effects. There would be effectively no shielding by other tissue, leading to near perfectly even heating. Your spaceship will also be kicked by the force. However, it would be evenly spread over every atom present. You wouldn't experience any g forces, just the feeling of being cooked alive, perfectly evenly. An external observer would see you get pushed back.

I'm now wondering on the kitchen utility of a neutrino microwave. It would deliver perfectly even cooking, unlike an oven, or microwave oven... The safety shielding and power requirements would likely be non-viable, however.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

One step at a time there, cowboy!

At first a neutrino oven would be prohibitively expensive for a regular household, we'd be seeing the first commercial model installed by some restaurant in Las Vegas, that's quite a gimmick: Neutrino-Zapped Food!

Then in the lounge by the casino, stand-up comics would be making jokes about steaks coming in three flavors: electron, muon and tau.

Then for some reason, I'm seeing all this in black-n-white.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I suspect that would be too close. You need a light year of lead to stop 50% of neutrinos. That makes distance the only real shielding. I'd guess 10AU should be enough to push the dose down to reasonable levels. About the distance from the sun to Saturn. If we put the oven in Saturn orbit, that could work. We would need to evacuate that side of the solar system, but that's not too hard.

The real challenge is getting your steak to the table in a timely manner. A relativistic missile could work. Unfortunately the exhaust of earth approach would be a hassle to deal with. The G forces also won't likely do your dinner any good.

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