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It's an article about environmental impact
"The impacts of vegans were a quarter of those of high meat eaters for greenhouse gas emissions, and land use, just 27% of the impacts for water pollution, 46% for water use and 34% for biodiversity. "
But let's be honest, you probably dont care, no one seems to care. People who do care are unusual and caring and taking action is unusual and might even earn you derision.
Personally I'm still trying to figure out whether there's any point in trying to change anyone's mind. I have a feeling it's a hopeless waste of energy, which is terrible. If the people do do care lose all will to try to encourage others to see what seems obvious then nothing will get better, it will probably get worse.
I don't think convincing average people to go 100% full vegan is a good strategy. What I would focus on is convincing people to eat less meat, eggs, dairy, etc. It can be a gradual process to even further reduction, or even just a permanent flat reduction is still an improvement.
Convincing two people to reduce their animal consumption by 50% is as good as convincing one person to go full vegan.
i think ed winters has changed his focus from moralizing and guilt-tripping and is now actively trying to make vegan foods more available/accessible. so i don't even think you need to talk about meat at all: just offer people food that happens to be vegan. and i don't mean trick them into eating a soyburger: just make food that is naturally vegan and tastey and then that's the meal someone has eaten instead of a meaty one.
To add to this, a good dish that's inherently vegan is always going to be better than a meat-based dish with the meat replaced.
Amen to that - plants are delicious on their own, no need to try (and fail) to make fake meet with them. Just like I don't want/need my pork chops to taste kinda-sorta but not quite like tofu or beans, I don't want/need my tofu or beans to taste kinda-sorta but not quite like pork chops...
Moralizing and guilt-tripping is never going to work. People will dig their heels in harder or completely cut out your message as toxic and abusive (and let's be honest, guilt-tripping is toxic and abusive shit and people who engage in it should be cut out of your life anyway).
Making items more accessible, available, and affordable is going to do more for your cause than turning a bunch of people away from you ever could.