▲ 826 ▼ Come on do something (feddit.org) submitted 1 year ago by genfood@feddit.org to c/yurop@lemm.ee 152 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) World federation, superpowers, small powers. As far as I can tell it's just a question of how big the blocs are. I don't see how you move laterally to that continuum in any lasting way; humans are going to act like humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago A unified world power, for instance through a competent UN that is achieved through diplomacy sound pretty okay. permalink fedilink source parent [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) I didn't excuse anything. We're shit. But, it's the way things are. Although, come to think of it, we'd probably just elect a world government if we weren't shit anyway. Just to coordinate things as we're being understanding and reasonable with each other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudoreboot@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) In my uninformed understanding of humans and their history, unifications happen only in the face of crises and threats (and far from all the time, clearly). Maybe--hopefully--the world eventually makes common cause in order to stabilise the world as things spiral out of control in a few decades, but right now our species appears more concerned about whom gets to dictate what and how humans should live and behave like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago External threats help, but unification was often, ahem, self-promoting as well. A hundred years on, becoming Roman by force and becoming Roman to avoid becoming Persian was kind of indistinguishable - and both did happen. We're kind of in uncharted territory with today's ideologically-driven democracies, but I'd argue the EU itself is a kind of peaceful equivalent. New members accrue because the economic and other benefits vastly exceed whatever beef it's neighbors have with it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) World federation, superpowers, small powers. As far as I can tell it's just a question of how big the blocs are. I don't see how you move laterally to that continuum in any lasting way; humans are going to act like humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago A unified world power, for instance through a competent UN that is achieved through diplomacy sound pretty okay. permalink fedilink source parent [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) I didn't excuse anything. We're shit. But, it's the way things are. Although, come to think of it, we'd probably just elect a world government if we weren't shit anyway. Just to coordinate things as we're being understanding and reasonable with each other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudoreboot@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) In my uninformed understanding of humans and their history, unifications happen only in the face of crises and threats (and far from all the time, clearly). Maybe--hopefully--the world eventually makes common cause in order to stabilise the world as things spiral out of control in a few decades, but right now our species appears more concerned about whom gets to dictate what and how humans should live and behave like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago External threats help, but unification was often, ahem, self-promoting as well. A hundred years on, becoming Roman by force and becoming Roman to avoid becoming Persian was kind of indistinguishable - and both did happen. We're kind of in uncharted territory with today's ideologically-driven democracies, but I'd argue the EU itself is a kind of peaceful equivalent. New members accrue because the economic and other benefits vastly exceed whatever beef it's neighbors have with it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago A unified world power, for instance through a competent UN that is achieved through diplomacy sound pretty okay. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) I didn't excuse anything. We're shit. But, it's the way things are. Although, come to think of it, we'd probably just elect a world government if we weren't shit anyway. Just to coordinate things as we're being understanding and reasonable with each other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudoreboot@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) In my uninformed understanding of humans and their history, unifications happen only in the face of crises and threats (and far from all the time, clearly). Maybe--hopefully--the world eventually makes common cause in order to stabilise the world as things spiral out of control in a few decades, but right now our species appears more concerned about whom gets to dictate what and how humans should live and behave like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago External threats help, but unification was often, ahem, self-promoting as well. A hundred years on, becoming Roman by force and becoming Roman to avoid becoming Persian was kind of indistinguishable - and both did happen. We're kind of in uncharted territory with today's ideologically-driven democracies, but I'd argue the EU itself is a kind of peaceful equivalent. New members accrue because the economic and other benefits vastly exceed whatever beef it's neighbors have with it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) I didn't excuse anything. We're shit. But, it's the way things are. Although, come to think of it, we'd probably just elect a world government if we weren't shit anyway. Just to coordinate things as we're being understanding and reasonable with each other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sudoreboot@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) In my uninformed understanding of humans and their history, unifications happen only in the face of crises and threats (and far from all the time, clearly). Maybe--hopefully--the world eventually makes common cause in order to stabilise the world as things spiral out of control in a few decades, but right now our species appears more concerned about whom gets to dictate what and how humans should live and behave like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago External threats help, but unification was often, ahem, self-promoting as well. A hundred years on, becoming Roman by force and becoming Roman to avoid becoming Persian was kind of indistinguishable - and both did happen. We're kind of in uncharted territory with today's ideologically-driven democracies, but I'd argue the EU itself is a kind of peaceful equivalent. New members accrue because the economic and other benefits vastly exceed whatever beef it's neighbors have with it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sudoreboot@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) In my uninformed understanding of humans and their history, unifications happen only in the face of crises and threats (and far from all the time, clearly). Maybe--hopefully--the world eventually makes common cause in order to stabilise the world as things spiral out of control in a few decades, but right now our species appears more concerned about whom gets to dictate what and how humans should live and behave like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago External threats help, but unification was often, ahem, self-promoting as well. A hundred years on, becoming Roman by force and becoming Roman to avoid becoming Persian was kind of indistinguishable - and both did happen. We're kind of in uncharted territory with today's ideologically-driven democracies, but I'd argue the EU itself is a kind of peaceful equivalent. New members accrue because the economic and other benefits vastly exceed whatever beef it's neighbors have with it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago External threats help, but unification was often, ahem, self-promoting as well. A hundred years on, becoming Roman by force and becoming Roman to avoid becoming Persian was kind of indistinguishable - and both did happen. We're kind of in uncharted territory with today's ideologically-driven democracies, but I'd argue the EU itself is a kind of peaceful equivalent. New members accrue because the economic and other benefits vastly exceed whatever beef it's neighbors have with it. permalink fedilink source parent