I don't want Canada under the EU governance system, and I don't think it's necessary to join the EU as a member just to have close and mutually supportive relations. Unless the Conservatives win today, we're still quite aligned with the EU in terms of values and commitment to similar international standards and goals, so I think we can form many trade agreements, cooperate on defense, and support similar international institutions, but just doing it with Canada as country that is a friend of the EU and not a member of the EU.