A driver plowed a car into a crowd at a street festival celebrating Filipino heritage in Vancouver on Saturday night, killing at least nine people and injuring others.

Some of those attending the festival helped arrest the suspect at the scene, who police identified as a 30-year-old man.

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“It’s something you don’t expect to see in your lifetime,” Kris Pangilinan, a Toronto-based journalist, told Canadian public broadcaster CBC. “[The driver] just slammed the pedal down and rammed into hundreds of people. It was like seeing a bowling ball hit — all the bowling pins and all the pins flying up in the air.”

He continued, “It was like a war zone… There were bodies all over the ground.”

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[+] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Cars need to go, streets need to pedestrianize, and bollards need to go up to make sure cars stay the hell out.

    To your point, imagine if this were a mass-shooting and the title were: "Nine people killed after gun shoots into crowd at Vancouver Filipino Festival". "Nine people killed after knife stabs into crowd at Vancouver Filipino Festival." It's so fucking passive as to be sickening. It reminds me of the "Man dies in officer-involved shooting" trope we see in US media because extrajudicial murder by the police is so routine and heavily whitewashed.

    The AP gives it the same treatment. The only equivalent I could think of is "Nine people killed after bomb explodes into crowd", and you know why that might be written that way? Because it's not immediately obvious who placed the bomb. This mass-murdering psychopath is in custody; we can say "Nine people killed after man drives into crowd at Vancouver Filipino festival."

    Edit: the death toll is now eleven, not nine.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    While I agree that it skews the narrative, it's likely that media at early stages of the story use passive language like that to leave open the possibility of various causes, such as mechanical malfunction or even an algorithmic failure.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's not nessisarily skewing the narrative, it's just not providing context. Terrorist acts have a narrow definition in Canadian law. This guy could be a spree killer motivated by racism but unless that killing is for premeditated ideological, religious or political reasons to coerce a specific result or change of policy from the population / Government it doesn't fall under the definition.

    No manifesto or claim of reasoning or connections found to groups that claim responsibility - no terrorist designation.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    This is true, though the declaration being avoided is a wider set than just terrorism.

    When I say skew I am not implying intent to mislead, just that paranoid interpretations by readers are kind of inevitable in such a situation.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There are a lot of areas that were designed based on cars. Where I live would be difficult for most of the residents without cars or something similar. The population density is too low to make most public transportation practical.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Good news, in those places a driver going off the road isn't going to hit a crowd of people.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I completely agree. If you look at the comment I was responding to, though, you'll see they appear to be advocating a complete prohibition, "Cars need to go. Away forever." I'm just saying there are places where that's not practical.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Most of those places would work just fine with a combination of trains for long distance and bicycles/walking for local travel too.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Boats, trains, subways, light rail, trams, buses, cable cars, micro electric vehicles, bikes, velomobiles, scooters, skateboards, rollerblades, feet, and sensible urban planning where the nearest grocery store isn't an hour's walk from my house don't exist. If it's not a car, I don't wanna hear about it.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sure, the elderly or disabled just love walking. And when you need to do a couple of miles to get groceries for the month a bicycle is great to carry those 9 bags!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    The elderly and disabled are exactly the people who are forgotten in a car centric society that assumes everyone can drive.

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  • The elderly and disabled are also (more the former, but sometimes the latter) maybe not people who should be operating heavy machinery. Hey, what if we had some sort of group vehicle that someone else could operate, and everyone else just hitches a ride?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    A terrorist attack has a narrow definition in Canadian law where it is specifically part of a premeditated ideological, religious or political attempt to influence government policy or to intimidate a section of the public to a specific end. Basically if this guy didn't have a manifesto or ever stated his reason within this rubric and was not part of a group that has specific aims then it follows under a regular old spree killer homicide unless it was racially motivated in which case it is also a hate crime.

    Whether one uses cars or guns is not a factor in determining what counts as a terrorist act. The reporting on this has not been great ar clearing up this point.

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